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  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27564

    #91
    Originally posted by Shawn
    how about you keep my name out of your mouth. I'm not upset about any pick. Certainly not upset about drafting JuJu. Do I believe he is what we needed most right now? No. But trust me the only thing that irritates me about any of this is you.
    How about no? Chill out with the tough talk. I will use your name and anyone else's whenever I feel like it. Stop being sensitive.
    Steelers 27
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    • Slapstick
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 0

      #92
      Again, draft for value, not need. When the two dovetail like TJ Watt, it's great! But, again, at the time of the draft, our WR depth was not what it is now...Bryant had just been "conditionally" reinstated...Sammie Coates, who had disappeared last season was coming of broken fingers...DHB was injured...the only WR on the roster who had done anything in the playoffs was named Antonio Brown...

      On the other hand, the Steelers spent their top two draft picks last year on CB and S...they kept Cockrell, who started games for them and performed well...they signed Coty Sensabaugh who had performed well in a defense like ours...I think the Steelers simply didn't think that DB was necessarily a greater need than WR at that point in time...personally, I hope they all do well and drive each other to be better...
      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #93
        Originally posted by Slapstick
        Again, draft for value, not need. When the two dovetail like TJ Watt, it's great! But, again, at the time of the draft, our WR depth was not what it is now...Bryant had just been "conditionally" reinstated...Sammie Coates, who had disappeared last season was coming of broken fingers...DHB was injured...the only WR on the roster who had done anything in the playoffs was named Antonio Brown...

        On the other hand, the Steelers spent their top two draft picks last year on CB and S...they kept Cockrell, who started games for them and performed well...they signed Coty Sensabaugh who had performed well in a defense like ours...I think the Steelers simply didn't think that DB was necessarily a greater need than WR at that point in time...personally, I hope they all do well and drive each other to be better...
        ...and given who was on the board in the second round we didn't need to draft a DB. As a value pick we got a much better player in JuJu than any DB we would have picked.
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #94
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          How about no? Chill out with the tough talk. I will use your name and anyone else's whenever I feel like it. Stop being sensitive.
          I thought we agreed not to address each other's posts. Be nice if we stick to that.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27564

            #95
            Originally posted by Shawn
            I thought we agreed not to address each other's posts. Be nice if we stick to that.
            I don't think I never agreed to that. If I did I apologize because I think we are grown enough to keep this going without feeling personally insulted. It's just football.
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            • Slapstick
              Rookie
              • May 2008
              • 0

              #96
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              I don't think I never agreed to that. If I did I apologize because I think we are grown enough to keep this going without feeling personally insulted. It's just football.
              Nope! That was me who agreed to that...though it was, like, two seasons ago...I thought the statute of limitations had passed...
              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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              • squidkid
                Legend
                • Feb 2012
                • 5847

                #97
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                ...and given who was on the board in the second round we didn't need to draft a DB. As a value pick we got a much better player in JuJu than any DB we would have picked.


                how do you know this?
                steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16063

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  ...and given who was on the board in the second round we didn't need to draft a DB. As a value pick we got a much better player in JuJu than any DB we would have picked.
                  But Ovi the value in the secondary ran out just before our pick.
                  Why no move up to shore up the WEAKEST UNIT ON THIS TEAM, as a priority? What would it take to move TWO SPOTS?
                  You AND Dizz showed in you mock that you KNOW secondary needed to be a priority. Obi AND especially Awuzie were accessible via trade.
                  Everybody agreed this was GREAT value in the secondary and the run showed it. Awuzie was the last of that run and the corner hungry Cowboys were just TWO SPOTS AHEAD OF US.

                  As I keep saying imagine if we just sat pat when Troy was there in 2003?
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                    But Ovi the value in the secondary ran out just before our pick.
                    Why no move up to shore up the WEAKEST UNIT ON THIS TEAM, as a priority? What would it take to move TWO SPOTS?
                    You AND Dizz showed in you mock that you KNOW secondary needed to be a priority. Obi AND especially Awuzie were accessible via trade.
                    Everybody agreed this was GREAT value in the secondary and the run showed it. Awuzie was the last of that run and the corner hungry Cowboys were just TWO SPOTS AHEAD OF US.

                    As I keep saying imagine if we just sat pat when Troy was there in 2003?
                    Neither of those guys is Troy...perhaps if they were, a move would have been in order...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27564

                      Originally posted by Slapstick
                      Neither of those guys is Troy...perhaps if they were, a move would have been in order...
                      Exactly. Obviously our FO and some other FO's didn't think Awuzie was another Troy P.
                      Steelers 27
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                      • Captain Lemming
                        Legend
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 16063

                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        Neither of those guys is Troy...perhaps if they were, a move would have been in order...
                        Troy was a top half of the first round pick who will go to the HOF. I am not saying a troy was available
                        The principle applies, don't sit back there are times you need to move up.
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                        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                        TCFCLTC-
                        The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                        • Captain Lemming
                          Legend
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 16063

                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          Exactly. Obviously our FO and some other FO's didn't think Awuzie was another Troy P.
                          Yet be honest........ nobody on this board would have been happier than YOU if we traded up for Awuzie who you had in the first.
                          Just because the team sat pat does not mean you were wrong.

                          Dont forget he WAS drafted before Juju, we might have well taken him. The issue is whether he was worth trading up for. Considering we still drafted corners who were NOT second round values says we COULD have moved up.
                          Last edited by Captain Lemming; 06-12-2017, 09:25 AM.
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                          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                          TCFCLTC-
                          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27564

                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            Yet be honest........ nobody on this board would have been happier than YOU if we traded up for Awuzie who you had in the first.
                            Just because the team sat pat does not mean you were wrong.

                            Dont forget he WAS drafted before Juju, we might have well taken him. The issue is whether he was worth trading up for. Considering we still drafted corners who were NOT second round values says we COULD have moved up.
                            dude, this was my first mock. Of course I would have did the "I got the pick right" bragging but I wasn't married to Awuzie. I also had the ILB from Alabama in the first as an option.

                            I don't take this mock stuff nearly as seriously as others on here.

                            Like I said previously, obviously WE didn't think he was that special because we didn't jump up to get him.
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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              .
                              When we were 6 picks away from our 2nd round pick, I was incredibly excited, because Zach Cunningham, Obi Melifonwu, Chidobe Awuzie, and Josh Jones were all still on the board. I wanted the team to trade up badly...especially for Zach or Obi (who play two positions that we didn't draft at all, so it shows what I know). But I understand the team waiting it out, because it still seemed awfully likely at that point that one of those guys fall right into our laps and we get to keep all of our valuable picks in a deep draft.

                              When Oakland and Houston grabbed Obi and Zach back to back, I was crushed. But then Seattle took Ethan Pocic, who I had no interest in, so I rejoiced. K.C. nabbed Tanoh Kpassagnon, who certainly intrigued me, but not in round 2, so I was still happy. Dallas and Green Bay taking Awuzie and Jones back to back was a gut punch.

                              I was worried about both of those teams (GB and DAL) potentially taking Watt ahead of us in round 1, but when the Cowboys opted for Taco Charlton instead, and the Packers traded back for Cleveland's picks atop day two and day three, it all worked out in round one...but unfortunately the cards didn't fall for us the same way in round 2.

                              Looking back on it now, would obtaining Zach Cunningham or Obi Melifonwu be worth more than getting Juju Smith-Schuster AND James Conner? Would obtaining Chidobe Awuzie or Josh Jones be worth more than getting Juju Smith -Schuster AND Brian Allen? It will be interesting to find out.

                              My personal preference was to be aggressive and get one of these guys, but the team opted for patience in this instance and let the board fall to them. Ultimately, I trust the judgment of the guys who run our front office to make the best decisions for this team. I may be a Steeler nut job and a bit of a draft junkie, but I acknowledge that they know way more than me, so I'll accept the picks we got, and will be cheering them on 100% now that they are officially Pittsburgh Steelers.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
                                • 0

                                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                                Troy was a top half of the first round pick who will go to the HOF. I am not saying a troy was available
                                The principle applies, don't sit back there are times you need to move up.
                                And, perhaps this was not one of those times...we shall see...
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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