Kevin Colbert Still Worried About CB Senquez Golson

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  • Real Deal Steel
    Banned
    • Jan 2017
    • 1229

    #16
    Originally posted by phillyesq
    Of course you don't count on him, but there is no harm in having him compete in camp this year. None. His impact on the cap is de minimus, so why not let him compete?
    Can you wrap him in bubble wrap to get him to camp to compete? LOL

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    • Real Deal Steel
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      • Jan 2017
      • 1229

      #17
      Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
      Not performing makes you a bust. Injuries make you unlucky (and disappointing). But, not a bust. Very different.
      If you don't do on the field what is expected, regardless of the reason, that's a bust because it's a wasted pick. Not different in my book. A wasted pick is a wasted pick regardless of the reason.

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      • Captain Lemming
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        • Jun 2008
        • 16041

        #18
        The term "bust" in this context has no real definition so everyone has a different take.
        While my take is similar to RDS (if you fail for whatever reason you are a bust) there is a difference when considering whether a team was "stupid" for making a pick, which is why some draw a distinction.

        If a guy with little injury history suddenly is injury prone as a pro it is not foreseeable, so it says nothing negative about your scouting.
        But if a player just aint that good, it reflects far more poorly on a teams ability to evaluate a player.

        Deville, defines "bust" by whether it was a solid pick at the time.
        RDS devines "bust" by the end result.

        I dont think either is wrong.
        Last edited by Captain Lemming; 04-25-2017, 12:02 PM.
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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27532

          #19
          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
          The term "bust" in this context has no real definition so everyone has a different take.
          While my take is similar to RDS (if you fail for whatever reason you are a bust) there is a difference when considering whether a team was "stupid" for making a pick, which is why some draw a distinction.

          If a guy with little injury history suddenly is injury prone as a pro it is not foreseeable, so it says nothing negative about your scouting.
          But if a player just aint that good, it reflects far more poorly on a teams ability to evaluate a player.

          Deville, defines "bust" by whether it was a solid pick at the time.
          RDS devines "bust" by the end result.

          I dont think either is wrong.
          we have to see how this ends...

          if he doesn't make it out of camp then I agree. However, if he makes it through camp and contributes this or prayer hands.. actually turns into a solid player then it's not a bust.
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          • Captain Lemming
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            • Jun 2008
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            #20
            Originally posted by Real Deal Steel
            If you don't do on the field what is expected, regardless of the reason, that's a bust because it's a wasted pick. Not different in my book. A wasted pick is a wasted pick regardless of the reason.
            As I stated earlier there are various ways to define "bust" and I agree with yours. But why a player failed matters to the extent the team is responsible for making a foolish choice, versus being unfortunate. BTW if there is a HISTORY of injury in college, that would be on the team too.
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            • Captain Lemming
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              • Jun 2008
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              #21
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              we have to see how this ends...

              if he doesn't make it out of camp then I agree. However, if he makes it through camp and contributes this or prayer hands.. actually turns into a solid player then it's not a bust.
              My point is genaric about the term not about Golson. I agree with you Dizz in his case it is too early to say.
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              • Mick'sTeam
                Backup
                • Jun 2008
                • 480

                #22
                Related news: CB Senquez Golson Still Worried About CB Senquez Golson

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27532

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Mick'sTeam
                  Related news: CB Senquez Golson Still Worried About CB Senquez Golson

                  lmao..that's hilarious.

                  I had high hopes for this kid after seeing him in a few games at Mississippi. He was always around the ball.
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                  • RuthlessBurgher
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                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #24
                    Golson: 'It was rough'
                    Posted 1 hour ago


                    Teresa Varley
                    Steelers.com

                    Senquez Golson hasn't had an easy path so far in the NFL, but is hoping things turn around.

                    The last two years have been nothing like Senquez Golson dreamt they would be. Not even remotely close.

                    The former second-round draft pick who was filled with promise, someone who could make an impact on the secondary, has been nothing but a spectator, sidelined his rookie season with a shoulder injury, and last year with a foot injury.

                    And it’s been painful for him. Very painful. And I’m not talking about physical pain.

                    “It was rough,” said Golson. “I always played sports year round, baseball and football. I never missed a season, never had surgery or anything like that. It was unfamiliar for me.

                    “Standing around watching practice, watching games was even worse. Standing around and watching and knowing I can contribute. That is the worse feeling. It got kind of bad for me.”

                    There were some days that were worse than others. Days when he doubted his future, truly had no idea if he would ever play again. Days where he thought the dream could be over.

                    “There is no energy to get to work. You are feeling real down,” admitted Golson. “It gets bad because this is what I love to do. Do I want to play anymore? Will I play anymore? You get all of those questions coming through on a daily basis. It was hard to get up out of bed, but once you get around the guys, you get to laugh at things. The thoughts and stuff go away. It’s the after work, when I get home and you think, ‘Dang, I really am not out there.’ It was important to be around the guys and coaches to keep me up.

                    “Once I made my mind up that I can still be doing things to get better, it started getting a little better for me, day-by-day. You only get confident through work. It’s just coming in working every day, knowing I am getting stronger, faster, knowing my body is starting to feel better. It was just working. It was rough. But I took it day-by-day. It got bad, but I am glad it’s turning the way it’s turning so far.”

                    How it is turning out is like this. Golson is back on the field, working with his teammates during OTAs at the UPMC Rooney Sports Complex and feeling better than ever.

                    “It feels really good,” said Golson. “It’s been a different journey for me to get out here, but I am just blessed to still be here. I am feeling really good. I am feeling the best I have felt in a while as far as strength wise, in shape wise, how my body feels. It’s the best I have felt.”

                    His work had been limited on the field the past two seasons, but he has had the advantage of two years plus of learning the playbook. While he might be a ‘rookie’ still on the field, in the classroom he definitely has experience.

                    “My mental toughness has gotten better,” said Golson. “Things are different in the NFL, so just learning the offenses and things like that. I have had a few years with the playbook before I have had to play, so I have some things in my favor.”

                    Golson still has a ways to go and he knows that. He hasn’t done anything on the field to show his teammates or coaches he is the same player they drafted a little over two years ago. But he will keep on working until he does prove it.

                    “Every day I come out here to get better,” said Golson. “Even if I played and started for two years, every day I would come out here and prove myself. Teammates, coaches, fans, everybody…Steelers Nation took a chance on me and I am just trying to get back out here and show what I can do.”

                    Golson might be the only player taking part in Steelers OTAs who actually wishes there was contact this time of year, but it’s something he is going to have to wait for.

                    “Every day I am working and taking it day-by-day,” said Golson. “I am ready to go. I am ready to get in those pads, start to get some contact, some bruises. I am just ready to go. It’s been too long for me. I am ready to make some tackles.

                    “I am just ready to go.”

                    http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Golson-It-was-rough/0227236c-45ef-4e83-8a95-440d74620516
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • Shawn
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #25
                      Golson was slept on in that draft. He was a real talent...a special playmaker. I'm rooting for the kid.
                      Trolls are people too.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        #26
                        I still remember him at Ole Miss grabbing that game clinching INT over the TE in the end zone.

                        It would be awesome to see 3 players who weren't on the field last year show up and show out.
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