Tomlin: Steelers' needs are at defensive back, outside linebacker

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  • SteelCrazy
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    • Aug 2008
    • 5049

    Tomlin: Steelers' needs are at defensive back, outside linebacker

    PHOENIX — It has been more than two months since the Steelers were soundly beaten by the New England Patriots in the AFC Championship game. It has been almost that long since coach Mike Tomlin talked publicly about his team and why they failed to get to the Super Bowl for a record ninth time.

    Since then, Tomlin said he learned two things about his defense:

    The Steelers need defensive backs who can play man coverage and players who can pressure the quarterback. Each were on short — and disastrous — display against Tom Brady and the Patriots.

    “Our inability to play man-to-man effectively and our inability to apply pressure on the quarterback without blitzing were issues in that game,” Tomlin said Monday during a break in the NFL owners meetings at the Arizona Biltmore — his first public comments since his season-ending news conference more than two months ago.

    The Steelers are expected to address those areas, specifically cornerback and outside linebacker, in the early rounds of the NFL draft in April, though Tomlin said it’s not necessarily because of what happened in the game.

    “We weren’t good enough. As that road gets narrow, those things become evident at times, sometimes painfully evident,” Tomlin said, sitting on a padded couch near the back patio, the picturesque Camelback Mountain behind him. “Moving forward, as we build our team for 2017, we don’t do that in reaction to that game. We’re trying to strengthen ourselves in all areas, to have the type of depth and balance that will allow us to be team that the confetti rains down on this year. Those were some of the key elements that outed us in 2016.”

    Asked what qualities he looks for when evaluating if defensive backs can play man coverage, Tomlin said, “Staying close to people, it’s that simple.”

    Tomlin has been back and forth to Phoenix twice in the past two weeks, returning from meetings as a member of the competition committee to attend Ohio State’s pro day, then turn right around and come back for the annual owners meetings.

    Because of that and traveling to pro days on college campuses, he said he has no information on the health status of tight end Ladarius Green or the return from year-long suspension of wide receiver Martavis Bryant.

    “That’s in the hands of the league office,” Tomlin said of Bryant’s case. “Their timetable is their timetable.”

    But Tomlin said he has had several discussions with quarterback Ben Roethlisberger since the end of the season, though none about whether Roethlisberger plans to return in 2017 — even though nearly everyone associated with the Steelers expects him to come back.

    Roethlisberger is on a hunting trip in New Zealand with, among others, Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly of East Brady.

    “We have had some good fluid discussions, but really normal discussions we have this time of year — keeping him abreast of free agency, how the draft is potentially shaping up,” Tomlin said. “We haven’t talked quite a bit at all about play or no-play. I’m just letting him sort through that process.

    “I think it’s a very reasonable discussion when you get 35. I think people probably read too much into it and are making more out of than what it is. I imagine he goes through that thought process … it’s probably not the first year he’s gone through that process and it probably won’t be the last if he continues.”

    Meantime, Tomlin said he is confident Vince Williams can be a capable replacement at inside linebacker for departed Lawrence Timmons, even though the Steelers made a play in free agency for New England’s Dont’a Hightower. Timmons, the first player ever drafted by Tomlin, signed a two-year, $12 million contract with the Miami Dolphins.

    Tomlin did not reference Hightower by name in explaining their intentions.

    “We are going to play free agency. We are going to create competition. Because we are playing free agency, without mentioning specific names, it doesn’t mean a lack of confidence in the existing players on our roster. The truest motivator is competition. Depth is an element of hunting what we are chasing. Depth and competition are critical to remaining viable as the road gets narrow. And it’s nothing more complex than that from our perspective.

    “You have opportunities to pursue good players. Players that could make us better. Players that could create big-time competition in some instances. It’s awesome.”

    http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/03/27/mike-tomlin-steelers-mock-draft-position-of-need-cornerback-defensive-back-linebacker/stories/201703270158?pgpageversion=pgevoke
    Last edited by SteelCrazy; 03-27-2017, 09:05 PM.
    2019 Mock

    1. ILB
    2. CB
    3. ILB
    4. S
    5. CB
    6. ILB
    7. S
  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27531

    #2
    smoke and mirrors?

    does this mean QB in the first and RB in the second?
    Steelers 27
    Rats 16

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    • SteelCrazy
      Legend
      • Aug 2008
      • 5049

      #3
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      smoke and mirrors?

      does this mean QB in the first and RB in the second?
      Good God!

      I hope it's an attempt to make people believe it's smoke and mirrors, but he is really truth telling.
      2019 Mock

      1. ILB
      2. CB
      3. ILB
      4. S
      5. CB
      6. ILB
      7. S

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27531

        #4
        Originally posted by SteelCrazy
        Good God!

        I hope it's an attempt to make people believe it's smoke and mirrors, but he is really truth telling.
        Everyone watched our secondary get torched and we have an old vet at LB.

        I don't think anyone is shocked by this info.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • Chadman
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 6537

          #5
          Is Ben scouting Chad Kelly's background? ��
          The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

          Light up the darkness.

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          • Chadman
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6537

            #6
            Chadman's take on Tomlin's comments, for what they are worth, is better individual pass rushers- so guts that have the natural ability to get to the QB and are not scheme-specific, allowing more players to drop in coverage and just 'rush 4', better coverage DB's- be it CB or S, and an upgrade of scheme-fit RB to back-up Bell.

            Carl Lawson in the 1st is looking good right now.
            The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

            Light up the darkness.

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            • SteelerOfDeVille
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 9069

              #7
              Originally posted by Chadman
              Carl Lawson in the 1st is looking good right now.
              Knowing the team's interest in speed, I'm thinking Takk McKinley. Hassan Reddick. Jabril Peppers. Any DE/OLB who ran under 4.60 is probably atop the list. TJ Watt won't be too far behind.
              2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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              • squidkid
                Legend
                • Feb 2012
                • 5847

                #8
                dang it. tomlin knows we need pressure and cover guys. too bad we always draft BPA.
                steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                • BradshawsHairdresser
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 7056

                  #9
                  This defense needs help at OLB, ILB, FS and CB.

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                  • Real Deal Steel
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1229

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                    This defense needs help at OLB, ILB, FS and CB.
                    Exactly. No smoke screen needed.

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27531

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                      This defense needs help at OLB, ILB, FS and CB.
                      Which is why we should trade one of our stars so we can get a RB or a QB.

                      Sorry, couldn't resist
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • Northern_Blitz
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 24373

                        #12
                        Originally posted by squidkid
                        dang it. tomlin knows we need pressure and cover guys. too bad we always draft BPA.
                        I think it's pretty clear that we draft BPA across positions that are viewed as "positions of need". That's why we shore up the roster with replacement level type UFAs, so we have several "needs" without having many "glaring needs".

                        I feel like we've generally had success with early round picks, so I'm happy to trust the FO's process.

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                        • SteelCrazy
                          Legend
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 5049

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                          I think it's pretty clear that we draft BPA across positions that are viewed as "positions of need". That's why we shore up the roster with replacement level type UFAs, so we have several "needs" without having many "glaring needs".

                          I feel like we've generally had success with early round picks, so I'm happy to trust the FO's process.
                          Tell me who doesn't draft BPA at a position of need?
                          2019 Mock

                          1. ILB
                          2. CB
                          3. ILB
                          4. S
                          5. CB
                          6. ILB
                          7. S

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                            Tell me who doesn't draft BPA at a position of need?
                            In Cleveland​, all positions are positions of need. And BPA stands for Bust Players Always.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • squidkid
                              Legend
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 5847

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                              Tell me who doesn't draft BPA at a position of need?
                              no kidding, as if the steelers are the only ones that do it
                              the only teams that draft for need are the few desperate ones at the top of round 1 looking for a franchise qb., otherwise, we all draft and approach FA the same.
                              steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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