Ben Roethlisberger

[squidkid]

[QUOTE=Mr.wizard;689969]

I don't think it's obvious at all, I just think that's what you want it to be. As many times as Ben came out flat last season, I'm not sure I would even trust his judgement when it comes to preparation.

do you trust tomlins judgement when he has his team come out flat and unprepared?

[Real Deal Steel]

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do you trust tomlins judgement when he has his team come out flat and unprepared?

Like the Eagles game?

[Mr.wizard]

[QUOTE=squidkid;689972]

do you trust tomlins judgement when he has his team come out flat and unprepared?

Yep, I'm confident that Tomlin does not send his team into a game without preparation,a coach can only do so much it's up to the players to execute. When Ben comes out flat do you really believe it's because Tomlin didn't prepare him?

[squidkid]

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Yep, I'm confident that Tomlin does not send his team into a game without preparation,a coach can only do so much it's up to the players to execute. When Ben comes out flat do you really believe it's because Tomlin didn't prepare him?

bens flatness is on ben. the team coming out flat is on tomlin. as is in game adjustments and the defensive game plans against the pats.
when ben states that they play as the practice(sloppy and undisciplined), that is also on tomlin.

[Mr.wizard]

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bens flatness is on ben. the team coming out flat is on tomlin. as is in game adjustments and the defensive game plans against the pats.
when ben states that they play as the practice(sloppy and undisciplined), that is also on tomlin.

That's crap, your going to tell me Mike Tomlin, fastest coach to 100 wins, never had a losing season, superbowl winning coach, doesn't know how to run a practice or game plan. If we where so bad how did we end up in the AFCCG?

[NorthCoast]

While I don't underestimate Tomlin's ability to coach, I think the point some are trying to make is that it will take a little more than business as usual for both coaches and players in order to beat a team like the Patriots. Their coach and preparations are meticulous and for the most part without peer. To beat such a team probably means something beyond the ordinary has to be done and I don't know that we hear that from either Tomlin or Roethlisberger.

Both Tomlin and Roethlisberger give this team the best chance to get past NE, but it will take something more from them to get it done.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

While I don't underestimate Tomlin's ability to coach, I think the point some are trying to make is that it will take a little more than business as usual for both coaches and players in order to beat a team like the Patriots. Their coach and preparations are meticulous and for the most part without peer. To beat such a team probably means something beyond the ordinary has to be done and I don't know that we hear that from either Tomlin or Roethlisberger.

Both Tomlin and Roethlisberger give this team the best chance to get past NE, but it will take something more from them to get it done.

Well put, esp. the last phrase.

Of course we only made it to that game by the skin of our teeth ("The Immaculate Extension"), it would be nice if we took care of business a little better this coming year than last year.

Come to think of it, those frustrating dumb losses last year (and the year before, and ...) might reflect the same issues with preparation as our miserable performance in the conference championship game did.

Here's hoping!

[Slapstick]

The same issues with preparation that got the Steelers to the AFCC?

[feltdizz]

While I don't underestimate Tomlin's ability to coach, I think the point some are trying to make is that it will take a little more than business as usual for both coaches and players in order to beat a team like the Patriots. Their coach and preparations are meticulous and for the most part without peer. To beat such a team probably means something beyond the ordinary has to be done and I don't know that we hear that from either Tomlin or Roethlisberger.

Both Tomlin and Roethlisberger give this team the best chance to get past NE, but it will take something more from them to get it done.

ehh... I think a few more players give us a better chance to win than Tomlin.

A healthy Bell, Heyward and Davis would have given us a better chance to win. We lacked pass rush, a running game AND the Pats scored in the play when Davis came out due to a nagging shoulder injury.

Tomlin definitely deserves blame blame for that stale defensive effort BUT the players have to execute. Regardless how well you coach em up if they fail to execute it will result in a loss.

I jnow some want to put to put the bulk of the blame on Tomlin but we were down 17 to 6 with the ball on the GL and we got the ball to start the second half. It's hard for me to stay angry at our game plan when I step back and see the way the game unfolded.

Definitely think we needed a few wrinkles in out game plan in the second half regardless of the first half because the Pats always make adjustments. Pretty sure we tried going man and Gay was burned badly in the second half. It would be nice if our offense put up points because it's hard to keep the Pats out of the endzone.

3rd and short and we tried a long pass. How about movomg the chains.

I don't think we came our flat to start the game but we definitely came out flat to start the 3rd quarter.

[feltdizz]

The same issues with preparation that got the Steelers to the AFCC?

we made the AFCCG? I thought we went .500 last season?

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

we made the AFCCG? I thought we went .500 last season?

Yes, we made the AFCCG last year. And we embarrassed ourselves, didn't you notice?

Injuries are part of the game. Ask Gronk.

Are their 2nd and 3rd string backups (you know, the ones who gashed us) that much more physically gifted than ours? Or were they just better prepared ... coached?

They scored on the one play that Davis came out with a sore shoulder, they were super alert, saw the change on the field, and turned their gameplan around on a dime to take advantage and score.

Can anyone imagine our OC or DC doing that?

[feltdizz]

Yes, we made the AFCCG last year. And we embarrassed ourselves, didn't you notice?

Injuries are part of the game. Ask Gronk.

Are their 2nd and 3rd string backups (you know, the ones who gashed us) that much more physically gifted than ours? Or were they just better prepared ... coached?

They scored on the one play that Davis came out with a sore shoulder, they were super alert, saw the change on the field, and turned their gameplan around on a dime to take advantage and score.

Can anyone imagine our OC or DC doing that?

if you rewatch that play where Davis was out (I wouldn't)!you can see it was more so the lack of pass rush and not identifying a weak replacement. Brady had all day on that play and it wasn't until late that he saw Logan was wide open.

I think our OC saw a few weaknesses but our players didn't make plays on offense.

[Real Deal Steel]

Yes, we made the AFCCG last year. And we embarrassed ourselves, didn't you notice?

Injuries are part of the game. Ask Gronk.

Are their 2nd and 3rd string backups (you know, the ones who gashed us) that much more physically gifted than ours? Or were they just better prepared ... coached?

They scored on the one play that Davis came out with a sore shoulder, they were super alert, saw the change on the field, and turned their gameplan around on a dime to take advantage and score.

Can anyone imagine our OC or DC doing that?

Stop telling the truth! What are you trying to do? Piss someone off? Gzzz. Now get down and kiss the Tomlin ring and swear your undying allegiance to Tomlin.

[Slapstick]

Are you referring to Tomlin's Super Bowl ring?

[feltdizz]

Are you referring to Tomlin's Super Bowl ring?

haha... wait, I think Cowher own that ring, Tomlin is just leasing it.