Have we thrown any TD's in the endzone from inside the 10?

[feltdizz]

closest I can remember is the Dallas game but that was a trick play and from the 15.

I know we had the Baltimore stretch but that was thrown short of the GL. Just wondering if anyone can remember a TD "in" the endzone because I can't and I think that's a major problem when it comes to our RZ offense.

[Eich]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvtboDwKpMA

I counted 10 in the regular season, none in the post season:
Coates against Redskins

DW Against the Bungles

Brown against KC

Jessie against KC

Jessie against Jets

AB against Jets

Coates against Jets

Bell against Dallas

Eli Rogers against Dallas

Bell against Rats


EDIT: I just realized that you meant a TD from inside the 10 thrown into the EZ without YAC. I just counted TD's from inside the 10. Some of them were run into the EZ.

[feltdizz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvtboDwKpMA

I counted 10 in the regular season, none in the post season:
Coates against Redskins

DW Against the Bungles

Brown against KC

Jessie against KC

Jessie against Jets

AB against Jets

Coates against Jets

Bell against Dallas

Eli Rogers against Dallas

Bell against Rats


EDIT: I just realized that you meant a TD from inside the 10 thrown into the EZ without YAC. I just counted TD's from inside the 10. Some of them were run into the EZ.

correct. I don't mind TD's caught before the GL but was wondering if that's the issue with our RZ offense. Seems like we struggle to get open in the EZ. We also struggled with 2 or conversions a year after being the best in the league.

[RuthlessBurgher]

We had one awful game against Dallas going 0 for 4 on 2 point tries (the Cowboys were also 0 for 2 on 2 point attempts in that game as well...weird game).

Other than that one odd game (that we would have won if our D didn't all a game winning TD drive that started with 42 seconds on the clock), we were 11 for 16 on all other 2 point tries over the last 2 seasons.

I still like going for 2 if we score a TD first, and then play it situationally thereafter.

[feltdizz]

We had one awful game against Dallas going 0 for 4 on 2 point tries (the Cowboys were also 0 for 2 on 2 point attempts in that game as well...weird game).

Other than that one odd game (that we would have won if our D didn't all a game winning TD drive that started with 42 seconds on the clock), we were 11 for 16 on all other 2 point tries over the last 2 seasons.

I still like going for 2 if we score a TD first, and then play it situationally thereafter.

we were 8 of 11 in 2015.

So so that means we were awful this year. Which makes my point. Our passing game is garbage in close range. I prefer we don't try to pass when inside the 10 or at least not intot he endzone until we get some new plays.

[Iron Shiek]

8 of 11 is 72%

If we 11 of 20 is 55%. Regression to mean should be expected after having a standout year, however still being better than 50% is not terrible. I agree with your premise that perhaps the playcalling down there could use a refresh.

[SS Laser]

It can use a Bryant even as only a decoy will open this up. Was Hamilton in the EZ a 2 point conversion? Was that with Landry also? Brain is foggy and I am not going looking. LOL

[feltdizz]

8 of 11 is 72%

If we 11 of 20 is 55%. Regression to mean should be expected after having a standout year, however still being better than 50% is not terrible. I agree with your premise that perhaps the playcalling down there could use a refresh.

I think we were so good in 2015 because it was a new rule and teams weren't prepared for us. Last year it looked like teams were ready and we looked lost out there on most 2 pt conversions.

Part of the problem is WR's ran their route then stopped moving. Seemed like our WR's aren't used to finding open space in the EZ once a play breaks down.

[phillyesq]

Including the Dallas game, if we were 8-11 last year, that makes us 3 for 9 this year? Is that right? (Math is not my strong suit).

The OP's point is well taken - the Steelers need to find a weapon to score when they get in close. Given his size, it's obviously not AB's strength. Getting back one of Bryant or Ladarious Green should help, but this is an area that needs improvement.

[feltdizz]

Including the Dallas game, if we were 8-11 last year, that makes us 3 for 9 this year? Is that right? (Math is not my strong suit).

The OP's point is well taken - the Steelers need to find a weapon to score when they get in close. Given his size, it's obviously not AB's strength. Getting back one of Bryant or Ladarious Green should help, but this is an area that needs improvement.

I don't think it's size... it's routes and decision making. We don't run picks that much, we rarely seem to run double moves or use Jesse James or Gimble in play action.

I have no faith in Green coming back or being a dependable weapon.

[phillyesq]

I don't think it's size... it's routes and decision making. We don't run picks that much, we rarely seem to run double moves or use Jesse James or Gimble in play action.

I have no faith in Green coming back or being a dependable weapon.

Good point on the routes, but I think a big WR - either somebody tall like Martavis or a wide body like Coates - would be a big help.

One thing that drove me nuts was the tendency to isolate AB on one side with a bunch on the other. That allowed teams to bracket AB and take him out of the picture. I'd rather run him out of the bunch, put him in motion, something....

[SteelerMaine83]

I think a big problem may be the package they send out. I hate 5 wide in the RZ. Think about it--you stuff 5 guys out there covered by 6 or 7, all compressed in a small area, small windows to throw in, little arc on the ball on anything inside (tips at the line). I'd prefer us to keep a TE and Bell in traditional spots with 3 WR on the outside, making the D respect a variety of plays. NE does sets like this all the time (TE and RB)and it keeps the D guessing a little more. SMH when we go 5 wide inside the 10.

[feltdizz]

I think a big problem may be the package they send out. I hate 5 wide in the RZ. Think about it--you stuff 5 guys out there covered by 6 or 7, all compressed in a small area, small windows to throw in, little arc on the ball on anything inside (tips at the line). I'd prefer us to keep a TE and Bell in traditional spots with 3 WR on the outside, making the D respect a variety of plays. NE does sets like this all the time (TE and RB)and it keeps the D guessing a little more. SMH when we go 5 wide inside the 10.

I agree. The threat of a run causes the LB's to hesitate just long enough for a window to open

[Slapstick]

Off the top of my head, believe it or not, Ben threw a 5 yard TD to Sammie Coates against the Jets...

AND there was a RB in the backfield...

[bostonsteeler]

8 of 11 is 72%

If we 11 of 20 is 55%. Regression to mean should be expected after having a standout year, however still being better than 50% is not terrible. I agree with your premise that perhaps the playcalling down there could use a refresh.

Your local statistician assures you that the fact that they were worse than average this year does not automatically imply that they will be better next year, and vice versa.

Something happened this year. What did we do different last year?