NFL reportedly looking into Steelers’ failure to disclose Le’Veon Bell’s injury

[Northern_Blitz]

McCaffery is Reggie Bush. He is undersized and won't live up to the value of a 1st rounder. I think he will end up often injured like Bush.

I also think that the success that DW has had over the past few seasons suggests that our line blocks pretty well and that we can probably get by with a good/not great #2 RB. I'm all about BPA, but if there was a tie between a RB and anything but QB in the 1st, I think I'd take the non-RB.

[feltdizz]

I also think that the success that DW has had over the past few seasons suggests that our line blocks pretty well and that we can probably get by with a good/not great #2 RB. I'm all about BPA, but if there was a tie between a RB and anything but QB in the 1st, I think I'd take the non-RB.

this draft is so deep unless Bell is out the door there is no reason to take RB in the first.

I thought this was a passing league?

[RuthlessBurgher]

this draft is so deep unless Bell is out the door there is no reason to take RB in the first.

I thought this was a passing league?

Yeah, and this particular running back can also line up in the slot and run a full route tree just like Le'Veon can, so they can both play at the same time and line up pretty much anywhere and contribute, giving our offense a multitude of options and greater unpredictability. Think the Falcons regret having both Freeman and Coleman now?

[feltdizz]

Yeah, and this particular running back can also line up in the slot and run a full route tree just like Le'Veon can, so they can both play at the same time and line up pretty much anywhere and contribute, giving our offense a multitude of options and greater unpredictability. Think the Falcons regret having both Freeman and Coleman now?

we aren't the Falcon's.

reminds me of everyone clamoring for 2 deep threat tight ends when the Pats had 2 weapons.

Haley doesn't game plan like that. It would be a wasted pick.

How many times did DW and Bell line up in the same backfield?

[RuthlessBurgher]

we aren't the Falcon's.

reminds me of everyone clamoring for 2 deep threat tight ends when the Pats had 2 weapons.

Haley doesn't game plan like that. It would be a wasted pick.

How many times did DW and Bell line up in the same backfield?

DeAngelo is not the receiving threat that Bell and McCaffrey are.

Having two dynamic RB's who can excel rushing the ball, run all the routes the wideouts do, have great hands, and can block...those are toys any O.C. can play with. Come out with Brown, Bryant, James, Bell, and McCaffrey...with that personnel group, you can do anything from short-yardage smashmouth to empty backfield spread...run hurry-up with this group and take advanatage of whatever defensive package gets stuck on the field.

[feltdizz]

I know what we "could" do but I know what Haley won't do. DW is good enough for us to have him in the backfield and Bell split wide or vice Versace and we RARELY used that formation.

Everyone on here dreamed about both in the backfield at the same time and we never did it because that's not how we do things in Pittsburgh.

[SS Laser]

Yes more Bell and DW on the field. It is stupid not to. DW runs routes and catches well. He should be the "RB" in that set when passing out of it. Just Bens outlet. He seemed to do it very well but I would have to check the stats. Not sure there is any good reason not to run that formation a bunch. More then a 2 TE set IMO. That is one gripe I have with the coaches. Use the weapons better on offense. They like to run the end around to WR's and bubble screens to WR's. Get Bell a dang bubble screen. Do a few odd and different things with this group is all I ask. The defense tried at times with only 2 down linemen or 3 safeties. Even extra LB's if I remember correctly. Was it not the first Ravens game they called the offense predictable?

[RuthlessBurgher]

Yes more Bell and DW on the field. It is stupid not to. DW runs routes and catches well. He should be the "RB" in that set when passing out of it. Just Bens outlet. He seemed to do it very well but I would have to check the stats. Not sure there is any good reason not to run that formation a bunch. More then a 2 TE set IMO. That is one gripe I have with the coaches. Use the weapons better on offense. They like to run the end around to WR's and bubble screens to WR's. Get Bell a dang bubble screen. Do a few odd and different things with this group is all I ask. The defense tried at times with only 2 down linemen or 3 safeties. Even extra LB's if I remember correctly. Was it not the first Ravens game they called the offense predictable?

DeAngelo is an unrestricted free agent and I doubt he's brought back. He turns 34 in a couple of months (that's 119 in RB years) and missed half of last season due to injury. When healthy, he averaged a full yard less per carry in 2016 than he had in 2015.

[SS Laser]

DeAngelo is an unrestricted free agent and I doubt he's brought back. He turns 34 in a couple of months (that's 119 in RB years) and missed half of last season due to injury. When healthy, he averaged a full yard less per carry in 2016 than he had in 2015.

I think they want him back on the cheap. "Rumors" are Tomlin wants him back and he wants to
come back. Sad but I was glad to have him in the pats game Vs Anyone else dressed. I get his age and camp will
prove if they end up or have someone to beat him out. Even at his age he is a
nice #2 when #1 only comes off the field if injured. I would love a bonified up grade not sure that happens for this coming season.

[feltdizz]

DeAngelo is an unrestricted free agent and I doubt he's brought back. He turns 34 in a couple of months (that's 119 in RB years) and missed half of last season due to injury. When healthy, he averaged a full yard less per carry in 2016 than he had in 2015.

yeah, I would prefer another FA or mid round RB as a back up. I knew when we acquired him he would miss a few games every year due to injury.

[RuthlessBurgher]

By Josh Alper
February 5, 2017, 12:10 PM EST
Report: No heavy penalty for Seahawks not listing Richard Sherman on injury report

Seahawks coach Pete Carroll’s admission that cornerback Richard Sherman was dealing with a knee injury that wasn’t listed on the injury report touched off an NFL investigation last month and there was a report that the team could lose a second-round draft pick as a result.

The team was stripped of a fifth-round pick for violating the league’s rules on offseason workouts and the report indicated that the penalty might be upgraded due to the failure to list Sherman’s injury. That was called “foolishness” by Sherman and now a report from Ian Rapoport of NFL Media suggests that any discipline won’t be that drastic.

Rapoport reports that the team is not expected to be penalized heavily “if at all” because a review of materials related to Sherman’s injury found that the team “did not commit an egregious rules violation.” Sherman never missed any game time and took part in the Pro Bowl, which Rapoport cites as a factor in that decision.

Seahawks General Manager John Schneider said recently that the team didn’t do anything “out of the norm” and it sounds like the league may have reached a similar conclusion.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Seahawks skate on Sherman injury-report snafu
Posted by Mike Florio on February 14, 2017, 2:07 PM EST

The Seahawks reportedly could have lost a second-round pick for violating the injury-reporting rules by not disclosing cornerback Richard Sherman’s knee injury. Ultimately, they lost not a thing.

Mike Garafolo of NFL Media reports that the league issued a warning to the Seahawks for failing to disclose the Sherman injury. Per Garafolo, the NFL deemed the violation to be a result of a misinterpretation of the rules, given that Sherman fully participated in practice.

Here’s the first problem with that excuse for not issuing punishment: Sherman at times did miss practice, with the designation that the absence wasn’t injury related. For example, he didn’t practice the Thursday before the divisional-round loss to the Falcons. Sherman also didn’t practice on the Thursday before the wild-card win over the Lions. He also didn’t practice on the Thursday before the Week 16 game against the Cardinals.

There’s a second problem. By hiding the injury, the Seahawks shielded Sherman from having the injury “tested” by offenses that otherwise may have attempted to force him to move in various ways at various speeds to see what if any limitations he had. And the injury surely was “significant,” given that coach Pete Carroll disclosed it as part of an effort to excuse the prickliness that Sherman demonstrated at times during the latter stages of the season.

There’s one more problem with the Seahawks getting only a warning. On three occasions since 2012, the Seahawks ave been caught violating offseason workout rules. Under the principle that allows penalties to be enhanced via the stacking of violations, the Seahawks arguably should have faced some consequence for committing another violation, even if it happened with respect to a different rule.

Perhaps the Seahawks would have faced a consequence, if the Steelers hadn’t stumbled into the same injury-report rabbit hole when running back Le’Veon Bell disclosed after the AFC title game that he’d been playing with an undisclosed groin injury. If the league office had whacked the Seahawks, the league office would have been required to whack the Steelers. So if the league office didn’t want to whack the Steelers, the league office had to look the other way on the Seahawks.

It sounds cynical, I know. But justice is often meted out at 345 Park Avenue by picking the preferred conclusion and working backward. In this case, it’s entirely possible that the preferred conclusion for the Seahawks was to issue only a warning because the preferred conclusion for the Steelers will be the same thing.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/14/seahawks-skate-on-sherman-injury-report-snafu/

[phillyesq]

Perhaps the Seahawks would have faced a consequence, if the Steelers hadn’t stumbled into the same injury-report rabbit hole when running back Le’Veon Bell disclosed after the AFC title game that he’d been playing with an undisclosed groin injury. If the league office had whacked the Seahawks, the league office would have been required to whack the Steelers. So if the league office didn’t want to whack the Steelers, the league office had to look the other way on the Seahawks.

It sounds cynical, I know. But justice is often meted out at 345 Park Avenue by picking the preferred conclusion and working backward. In this case, it’s entirely possible that the preferred conclusion for the Seahawks was to issue only a warning because the preferred conclusion for the Steelers will be the same thing.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/14/seahawks-skate-on-sherman-injury-report-snafu/

That's a really nutty conspiracy theory, even for Florio. It's a shame - the info on his site is pretty good, but he ruins it with his crazy theories.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

That's a really nutty conspiracy theory, even for Florio. It's a shame - the info on his site is pretty good, but he ruins it with his crazy theories.

Little known alternative fact, his mother was the Babushka lady on the grassy knoll.

[NorthCoast]

That's a really nutty conspiracy theory, even for Florio. It's a shame - the info on his site is pretty good, but he ruins it with his crazy theories.

Yeah. He lost me on that second to last paragraph... didn't penalize the Seahags cause he didn't want to penalize the Steelers!?!?... when's the last time Goodell didn't want to punish the Steelers in some way...?