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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #16
    Originally posted by squidkid
    makes you mad that i am right again, doesnt it?
    What are you right about exactly? You just condemn Tomlin for "trusting his gut" as opposed to relying on rational game planning and strategy. Well, are you suggesting that going for 2 is rational game planning and strategy or is going for 1 rational game planning and strategy? Just curious.

    I suggested that Tomlin is more likely to plan some 2 point conversion plays specifically designed to attack an opponent's weaknesses when he has a full week to prepare to face that opponent, and is more likely to just kick PAT's when practice time is extremely limited due to the quick Sunday to Thursday turnaround.

    Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm glad you know that you're right because everything Tomlin does is wrong.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • feltdizz
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      • May 2008
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      #17
      Originally posted by squidkid
      makes you mad that i am right again, doesnt it?
      Yes. I am so angry you think you are right again about Tomlin being horrible after a 21 point win.

      Arrrgh
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      • Oviedo
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        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #18
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        Yes. I am so angry you think you are right again about Tomlin being horrible after a 21 point win.

        Arrrgh
        Don't feed the troll. Let him live under his bridge and ignore him. He is always going to be clueless
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • squidkid
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          • Feb 2012
          • 5847

          #19
          Originally posted by Oviedo
          Don't feed the troll. Let him live under his bridge and ignore him. He is always going to be clueless
          yup, if you cant win, quit
          steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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          • squidkid
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            • Feb 2012
            • 5847

            #20
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            Yes. I am so angry you think you are right again about Tomlin being horrible after a 21 point win.

            Arrrgh
            you lose again. this topic isnt about winning by 21, its about not going for 2.
            steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
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              #21
              Originally posted by squidkid
              you lose again. this topic isnt about winning by 21, its about not going for 2.
              Lmao... you must be going through Tomlin blame withdrawal since we won 2 games in a row.

              Anytime we win a few games you start this "I win, you keep running away from me" nonsense.

              Its hilarious and sad at the same time.
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              • squidkid
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                • Feb 2012
                • 5847

                #22
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Lmao... you must be going through Tomlin blame withdrawal since we won 2 games in a row.

                Anytime we win a few games you start this "I win, you keep running away from me" nonsense.

                Its hilarious and sad at the same time.
                whats hilarious is you trying to spin your way out of looking stupid defending tomlin.
                steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                • RuthlessBurgher
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                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #23
                  Originally posted by squidkid
                  whats hilarious is you trying to spin your way out of looking stupid defending tomlin.
                  If Tomlin decides to go for 2, he's wrong. Taking unnecessary risks that will cost this team.

                  If Tomlin decides to kick the PAT, he's wrong. Living in his fears.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • squidkid
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                    • Feb 2012
                    • 5847

                    #24
                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    If Tomlin decides to go for 2, he's wrong. Taking unnecessary risks that will cost this team.

                    If Tomlin decides to kick the PAT, he's wrong. Living in his fears.
                    why, in some eyes, was tomlin a genius for going for 2 in previous games, but those same people arent upset that he kicked the PATs this week?
                    steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
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                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #25
                      Originally posted by squidkid
                      why, in some eyes, was tomlin a genius for going for 2 in previous games, but those same people arent upset that he kicked the PATs this week?
                      I explained my hypothesis twice already. Reduced prep time because of a Thursday game. There are more important things to worry about when you have a short amount of time to prepare for a team.

                      You make fun of some posters on here for agreeing with everything Tomlin does no matter what, but you criticize him no matter what. Squidkid has an issue with Tomlin going for 2. Squidkid has an issue with Tomlin kicking PAT's. Let's just simplify and say that Squidkid has an issue with Tomlin. Period.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • squidkid
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                        • Feb 2012
                        • 5847

                        #26
                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        I explained my hypothesis twice already. Reduced prep time because of a Thursday game. There are more important things to worry about when you have a short amount of time to prepare for a team.

                        You make fun of some posters on here for agreeing with everything Tomlin does no matter what, but you criticize him no matter what. Squidkid has an issue with Tomlin going for 2. Squidkid has an issue with Tomlin kicking PAT's. Let's just simplify and say that Squidkid has an issue with Tomlin. Period.
                        so tomlin has enough time to put in an entire game plan for offense, defense and special teams but not enough time for a play or two for a 2 pt. conversion?
                        every 2 pt play ever used is only in the 2 pt conversion playbook. they are never used any other time and every play in our regular offense playbook cannot be used for a 2 pt conversion?
                        thats what you are telling me?
                        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                        • feltdizz
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                          • May 2008
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by squidkid
                          so tomlin has enough time to put in an entire game plan for offense, defense and special teams but not enough time for a play or two for a 2 pt. conversion?
                          every 2 pt play ever used is only in the 2 pt conversion playbook. they are never used any other time and every play in our regular offense playbook cannot be used for a 2 pt conversion?
                          thats what you are telling me?
                          Sweet baby Jesus... not once, not twice, but thrice.

                          He has told you three times already.
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                          • RuthlessBurgher
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                            • May 2008
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by squidkid
                            so tomlin has enough time to put in an entire game plan for offense, defense and special teams but not enough time for a play or two for a 2 pt. conversion?
                            Originally posted by squidkid
                            every 2 pt play ever used is only in the 2 pt conversion playbook. they are never used any other time and every play in our regular offense playbook cannot be used for a 2 pt conversion?
                            thats what you are telling me?
                            Yes, that's what I'm telling you. After a Sunday game, the players need Monday to rest their bodies at a bare minimum. One practice on Tuesday, with no real contact. Then travel and a glorified walkthrough on Wednesday. The game plan install is bare minimum. No need to complicate things any further by even considering going for 2 point conversions on early scores. You can go back to your 2 point conversion playbook late in the game if necessary (such as if you are down 8 points in the 4th quarter, obviously), but early on, just kick the PAT. It's that simple.

                            Playing Thursday games after a Sunday game is so mind-numbingly stupid. If the league wants to continue to mandate that every team plays on Thursday night (for this almost as dumb Color Rush nonsense), then they need to schedule those teams' bye week for week before for all games except the season opener. Don't play Thursday games in weeks 2 and 3 (byes too early) or week 17 (bye too late) but have the Thursday night opener to start the season, then a Thursday night game every week from week 4-16 (with the extra 2 Thursday games on Thanksgiving) to make it a total of 16 Thursday games overall so that all 32 teams get one. Having the bye before a Thursday gives players 10 days off before their Thursday night game, and then another 9 days off after their Thursday night game. Sure, the teams playing on TNF in weeks 4 & 16 will complain about having their byes in weeks 3 and 15 respectively, but the league already schedules byes as early as week 4 and as late as week 13 now, so this isn't too far off. It's an easy fix and much, much safer than what they are having these guys put their bodies through with 2 NFL games in 5 days’ time now.
                            Last edited by RuthlessBurgher; 11-28-2016, 01:04 PM.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • papillon
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 11340

                              #29
                              Ok, I think we can all agree that Mike Tomlin is the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers and as such has the final say on all things related to the offense, defense and special teams. He solicits information from his coaches, Haley, Butler and Smith and then goes about coaching the game.

                              Why didn't he go for two in the Colts game? Because, he chose not to, it's really not that difficult.

                              Pappy
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                              • squidkid
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                                • Feb 2012
                                • 5847

                                #30
                                Originally posted by papillon
                                Ok, I think we can all agree that Mike Tomlin is the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers and as such has the final say on all things related to the offense, defense and special teams. He solicits information from his coaches, Haley, Butler and Smith and then goes about coaching the game.

                                Why didn't he go for two in the Colts game? Because, he chose not to, it's really not that difficult.

                                Pappy
                                exactly.
                                tomlin doesnt go for two for any logical, strategic reason early in games.
                                he does it to say, 'look at me, i'm going for two'
                                steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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