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Now has missed 30% of games he was eligible to play in.
Great player, but injury prone. No other way to look at it.
Great player, but injury prone. No other way to look at it.
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don't understand why so many superfans get defensive over this
plays fast and light and is bound to be more dinged up at that position. there is a real discussion to be had about paying this guy big $$ in a year or twoLast edited by Eddie Spaghetti; 09-30-2016, 09:12 PM. -
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Maurkice Pouncey is injury prone. Le'Veon Bell is injury prone. Ben Roethlisberger is injury prone. Ryan Shazier is injury prone. They are all also great players as well.Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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Don't forget Troy Polamalu. And check out Rob Gronkowski's injury history. You'll be surprised. Gargantua gets hurt a lot.
Guess I'm a "superfan". Is that supposed to be an insult?
Lambert played most of his career at 6' 4", 215-217. Played fast and light. Did pretty well until he injured his toe.Last edited by RobinCole; 09-30-2016, 11:54 PM.Comment
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Pouncey and Bell are injury-prone, but it is just that bad-luck kind of thing (e.g. guy rolls up on your leg... what are you gonna do?). I think there is a difference between that, and a guy who limps off the field every other game. I also think lumping Ben in with a guy like Shazier is a bit of disrespect to him. Ben does milk his injuries when they happen... but Ben also plays with his injuries, and plays well. Shazier does not.
Shazier gets injuries that are reported as relatively minor (i.e. day-to-day, week-to-week), and those seem to incapacitate him. A couple years back, I think he sprained his ankle and it was being reported as a week-to-week thing--and it knocked him out for well over a month. This current injury he has now, the announcers kept reporting it as something the coaches didn't seem too concerned about... yet there he was, on the sideline constantly grimacing, etc. And then, when he did go back out there, he was invisible.
The word "great" is thrown around way too much. Ben is great. I think Pouncey and Bell can be great, if people stop diving on their legs... Warriors like Harrison, Greg Lloyd are great, because they played great consistently even with injuries that inevitably pile up when you play a position like LB. Shazier is NOT great. The guy plays grea,t a handful of games of the year (e.g. when he is fresh--, coincidentally they happen to be at the start of the year). When he isn't fresh, and he is in the throws of a grueling season, I have yet to see the kid strap whatever is ailing him up, look ugly, and get the job done (i.e. he looks like a WR, all pretty = plays well! When he looks all thick and bulky with braces, like any LB will tend to look = he is invisible) I hope to see it soon someday.Last edited by Shoe; 10-01-2016, 12:05 PM.I wasn't hired for my disposition.Comment
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Shazier has been dinged up a lot. Misfortune or just being a bit lean for ILB or combo of both. It's what we have to deal with. Fast forward a year and James retires n JJ is gone in free agency I'm not so sure at that point RS isn't considered for OLB using his primary asset his speed off the edge n keep the wear on him down while still keeping him in our front seven. Just a thought but this guy who is calling out our defensive sets needs to be in the lineup as much as possible because when he is in there he's a player!Comment
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I guess all players that play sports are injury prone. The early indication is Shazier is fragile.Comment
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Is Cam Heyward playing well on his high ankle sprain? I doubt it. Why would anyone think he would be? I have to laugh at the notion that there are certain players who play well with injuries and certain players that don't. Those that play well must not be injured very much.
J.J. Watt is on IR for the season with a back injury. He's not too small to play his position, so how could he get hurt? Well, "call him great if you want to but not being on the field doesn't help the team win."Comment
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Shazier is only good early in the season when fresh? He was the main reason (other than numbskills Burfict and Pacman) that we advanced in the playoffs last year vs. Cincy.Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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I did not say that. I said that he is healthy at the start of the season, and that is when his best performances have been.
As for Robin Cole's comment, you must have had too many concussions from your own playing days. I can't even believe anyone could argue this point? Cam Heyward is playing on an ankle that I'm guessing most others (including Shazier for sure) wouldn't even play. With Emmitt Smith's shoulder that one game vs. the Giants, are you telling me any other guy would've stepped up and played at that level too?
Some guys can tolerate pain better than others. Apparently to Cole, this is a new phenomenon.I wasn't hired for my disposition.Comment
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I'm well aware that Heyward is playing hurt. Perhaps ( we'll never know) he's out there when others wouldn't even be trying to play. But the assertion is that some guys play just as well hurt as when healthy. Well, he's not. That is certainly not a criticism. It's common sense. No medical degree needed.
Squid, O builder of straw men: I have no clue what you're talking about re J. J. Watt. Really, "he thinks J. J. Watt is gonna be responsible for Houston wins the rest of the year". You're gibbering. Again I'm addressing a different issue. It's constantly parroted here that Shazier is too light to play ILB. Well, is Watt too light? No, but he's out for the season. Now what's your comeback other than "Oh but that's different"?Comment
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