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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #16
    My preferences are a top tier CB first (V. Hargreaves, E. Apple, W. Jackson)...if not, then a top tier DT (J. Reed, A. Billings, V. Butler)...and finally a top tier safety (K. Joseph, V. Bell, K. Neal).

    Then consider a second tier CB (M. Alexander, K. Fuller, A. Burns), a second tier DT (A. Johnson, K. Clark, C. Jones), and finally a second tier safety (J. Cash, T.J. Green, D. Thompson).

    I love to be able to somehow land two top tier players with from that first list with our first two picks (I won't argue the specifics of whether, say, Apple and Bell is better than Billings and Neal or whatever), and then get one of the second tier guys from that second list without our third pick (preferably at the position that we haven't taken yet, but I'm not necessarily afraid of, say, double-dipping at corner like I did in the Sirius Football Heads mock with William Jackson III and Mackenzie Alexander with my top two picks).
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #17
      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
      My preferences are a top tier CB first (V. Hargreaves, E. Apple, W. Jackson)...if not, then a top tier DT (J. Reed, A. Billings, V. Butler)...and finally a top tier safety (K. Joseph, V. Bell, K. Neal).

      Then consider a second tier CB (M. Alexander, K. Fuller, A. Burns), a second tier DT (A. Johnson, K. Clark, C. Jones), and finally a second tier safety (J. Cash, T.J. Green, D. Thompson).

      I love to be able to somehow land two top tier players with from that first list with our first two picks (I won't argue the specifics of whether, say, Apple and Bell is better than Billings and Neal or whatever), and then get one of the second tier guys from that second list without our third pick (preferably at the position that we haven't taken yet, but I'm not necessarily afraid of, say, double-dipping at corner like I did in the Sirius Football Heads mock with William Jackson III and Mackenzie Alexander with my top two picks).
      Is Hargreaves 1st Tier? Everything I've seen the past week has him dropping like a rock and I've seen Burns move up into Round 1.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #18
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Is Hargreaves 1st Tier? Everything I've seen the past week has him dropping like a rock and I've seen Burns move up into Round 1.
        Where did you hear that? Hargreaves is the #1 pure CB in the draft (Jalen Ramsey will get selected before him, but he is somewhat of a CB/S hybrid type). There was a rumor floating around last week of Hargreaves failing a drug test at the combine, but that was debunked as being from one of those hoaxes trying to impersonate Adam Schefter and Ian Rapoport. The league recently confirmed that no one failed a drug test at the combine this year. This is the only "dropping like a rock" explanation that I can come up with, since I don't see any way that Hargreaves does not come off the board in the top half of round 1.
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • squidkid
          Legend
          • Feb 2012
          • 5847

          #19
          Originally posted by flippy
          Since this is the first time I didn't consider a TE in the first round for the Steelers, I bet they go with Hunter Henry. He legit could be the best player on the board when we pick. It wouldn't hurt going for a complete TE in the mold of Heath Miller.

          I've always liked the idea of having 2 TEs in the redzone that are legit receiving threats. And with Martavis Bryant's off field issues, why not get another big body to help the running game, open up the passing game, and slow down the pass rush? There's so much versatility in a 2 TE set if you have 2 legit playmakers that can block and run routes.

          This could be the kind of move you make to give the Offense the potential to dominate for the remainder of Ben's career.
          i would lose my mind(not in a good way)
          s. cb. dl, olb in some order for the first 4 rounds
          steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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          • squidkid
            Legend
            • Feb 2012
            • 5847

            #20
            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
            My preferences are a top tier CB first (V. Hargreaves, E. Apple, W. Jackson)...if not, then a top tier DT (J. Reed, A. Billings, V. Butler)...and finally a top tier safety (K. Joseph, V. Bell, K. Neal).

            Then consider a second tier CB (M. Alexander, K. Fuller, A. Burns), a second tier DT (A. Johnson, K. Clark, C. Jones), and finally a second tier safety (J. Cash, T.J. Green, D. Thompson).

            I love to be able to somehow land two top tier players with from that first list with our first two picks (I won't argue the specifics of whether, say, Apple and Bell is better than Billings and Neal or whatever), and then get one of the second tier guys from that second list without our third pick (preferably at the position that we haven't taken yet, but I'm not necessarily afraid of, say, double-dipping at corner like I did in the Sirius Football Heads mock with William Jackson III and Mackenzie Alexander with my top two picks).

            i agree wholeheartedly with your thinking except i dont like the idea of drafting a guy with a blown out knee in the first
            steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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            • Iron City Inc.
              Hall of Famer
              • Jun 2013
              • 3237

              #21
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              My preferences are a top tier CB first (V. Hargreaves, E. Apple, W. Jackson)...if not, then a top tier DT (J. Reed, A. Billings, V. Butler)...and finally a top tier safety (K. Joseph, V. Bell, K. Neal).

              Then consider a second tier CB (M. Alexander, K. Fuller, A. Burns), a second tier DT (A. Johnson, K. Clark, C. Jones), and finally a second tier safety (J. Cash, T.J. Green, D. Thompson).

              I love to be able to somehow land two top tier players with from that first list with our first two picks (I won't argue the specifics of whether, say, Apple and Bell is better than Billings and Neal or whatever), and then get one of the second tier guys from that second list without our third pick (preferably at the position that we haven't taken yet, but I'm not necessarily afraid of, say, double-dipping at corner like I did in the Sirius Football Heads mock with William Jackson III and Mackenzie Alexander with my top two picks).
              That 2nd round pool seems likely one of those guys slide to 58. If it started Jackson n Johnson I would not be complaining.

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              • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3937

                #22
                Steelers Luck... Billings falls to Steelers from CB run? Joseph falls to Steelers in 2nd? I bet that's the 1-2 at positions the Steelers are hoping for. Two rookies can top the depth chart there quickly.

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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #23
                  Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                  Steelers Luck... Billings falls to Steelers from CB run? Joseph falls to Steelers in 2nd? I bet that's the 1-2 at positions the Steelers are hoping for. Two rookies can top the depth chart there quickly.
                  In the 8 man mock draft that Ike Taylor did on NFL Network this weekend with Charlie Casserly, Steve Marriucci, Michael Irvin, Maurice Jones-Drew, and others...at #25 both Eli Apple and William Jackson III were available...and Ike chose Andrew Billings for the Steelers.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • Iron City Inc.
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 3237

                    #24
                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    In the 8 man mock draft that Ike Taylor did on NFL Network this weekend with Charlie Casserly, Steve Marriucci, Michael Irvin, Maurice Jones-Drew, and others...at #25 both Eli Apple and William Jackson III were available...and Ike chose Andrew Billings for the Steelers.
                    If it played out like this I would believe you have to consider trading down to 27 to Packers and get a 4 back. Packers need a 0 tech. Then pick up one of the corners. It would not be a bad situation for us provided we have Apple n Jackson that close on our board. A corner plus a mid round pick would be a great start for us.

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                      If it played out like this I would believe you have to consider trading down to 27 to Packers and get a 4 back. Packers need a 0 tech. Then pick up one of the corners. It would not be a bad situation for us provided we have Apple n Jackson that close on our board. A corner plus a mid round pick would be a great start for us.
                      Given this scenario, I might prefer to have Billings.
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #26
                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        In the 8 man mock draft that Ike Taylor did on NFL Network this weekend with Charlie Casserly, Steve Marriucci, Michael Irvin, Maurice Jones-Drew, and others...at #25 both Eli Apple and William Jackson III were available...and Ike chose Andrew Billings for the Steelers.
                        Saw that and great choice. I'll trust Ike knows something. Can get DBs later. Build he front 7 to the best in the NL.
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • Shawn
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 15131

                          #27
                          I'm convinced it will be top DB on the board. Why? Because DL is less of a need and very deep. So they can get a first round DL talent in the second. But that's not the case with DB. Second, the Steelers play about 50% nickle yet have no real DBs to do so. They need to get out of the mentality that OLBs are the premium and realize DBs, safety/lbr hybrids are the new 3-4 OLB. So I believe it's the best left of Apple, Vonn Bell, Alexander, Jackson.
                          Trolls are people too.

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                          • Sword
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 2048

                            #28
                            I believe, unless a top draft prospect (BPP) lands for us we trade down with NE or Denver at least for more draft picks.

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                            • SidSmythe
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 4708

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Sword
                              I believe, unless a top draft prospect (BPP) lands for us we trade down with NE or Denver at least for more draft picks.
                              Trade down what with N.E.?? To the bottom of the 2nd??
                              Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                              Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                              Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                              • phillyesq
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 7568

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Shawn
                                I'm convinced it will be top DB on the board. Why? Because DL is less of a need and very deep. So they can get a first round DL talent in the second. But that's not the case with DB. Second, the Steelers play about 50% nickle yet have no real DBs to do so. They need to get out of the mentality that OLBs are the premium and realize DBs, safety/lbr hybrids are the new 3-4 OLB. So I believe it's the best left of Apple, Vonn Bell, Alexander, Jackson.
                                I don't think that defensive line is less of a need. The Steelers are very thin behind Tuitt and Heyward, and have nothing behind the unproven McCullers.

                                The secondary is a need as well, don't get me wrong. But I'd hate to reach for a DB over an elite defensive lineman.

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