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  • SteelerOfDeVille
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    • May 2008
    • 9069

    #76
    Originally posted by buccoray61
    If Burns is the pick,they better have traded back to get him.I don't like him at 25
    Honestly, I think they trade back anyway - particularly if the top CB targets are gone, but, NT's haven't started getting picked up. I get the sense that they'd feel moving back a few spots would still give them a chance to get one of the NT's, yet also possibly the ability to gain a late day 2 player which could be key...
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    • Eddie Spaghetti
      Hall of Famer
      • Jul 2008
      • 4123

      #77
      I would cry for joy if it falls like ruthless posted above

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      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 10281

        #78
        Originally posted by SteelCrazy
        There's one man worth our pick at 25 and I believe that is Karl Joesph. Billings is overrated imo, he is worth our pick at 58. If Joesph is gone, then we need to trade down and get the bpa.
        I don't know how happy I'd be with that pick and his recent injury history. I honestly think they go D line. I think the potential BPAs available will be DL over CBs. I doubt the the corners after Ramsey and Hargreaves rate as high as the linemen.
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        • phillyesq
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          • May 2008
          • 7568

          #79
          Ruthless - I'd love if the draft fell like that. Unfortunately, I don't think Joseph falls to our pick in the second, and I also doubt that Shepard makes it to our pick in the third. If you got those guys in those slots though, that would be incredible value.

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          • Eddie Spaghetti
            Hall of Famer
            • Jul 2008
            • 4123

            #80
            Originally posted by phillyesq
            Ruthless - I'd love if the draft fell like that. Unfortunately, I don't think Joseph falls to our pick in the second, and I also doubt that Shepard makes it to our pick in the third. If you got those guys in those slots though, that would be incredible value.
            that's my belief as well, but stranger things have happened I guess. I feel like we would basically getting billings for free in that scenario as I think if we get Joseph and sheppard it would have to happen in rounds 1&2

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            • SteelCrazy
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              • Aug 2008
              • 5049

              #81
              Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
              I don't know how happy I'd be with that pick and his recent injury history. I honestly think they go D line. I think the potential BPAs available will be DL over CBs. I doubt the the corners after Ramsey and Hargreaves rate as high as the linemen.
              Worse case, Joesph will miss 6-8 games of the upcoming season but after that he'll be a beast.

              I don't see Billings going to anyone in round 1. I think A'Shawn Robinson may squeak into round 1 but possibly early two. I think they'll go OLB, S/C, then maybe DL. However, we'll all find out tomorrow night.
              2019 Mock

              1. ILB
              2. CB
              3. ILB
              4. S
              5. CB
              6. ILB
              7. S

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              • Ernie
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                • Aug 2013
                • 8470

                #82
                I heard Mike Mayok say last evening that this is the deepest, most talented pool of D-Linemen in a generation... maybe ever.. and all of the GM's that he's talked to have said the same. He said there would be 20 or so of them that would go undrafted this year that..under any normal year... would be round 5 picks. With that being said, I think we need to go DB in round 1... if it's not a reach. We can pick up a DL in rounds 2 or 3 (or later) and be fine. Id even be fine with: rounds 1-2 Safety/Corner and round 3 DL

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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  #83
                  Kevin Dodd
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                  Rats 16

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                  • Oviedo
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Ernie
                    I heard Mike Mayok say last evening that this is the deepest, most talented pool of D-Linemen in a generation... maybe ever.. and all of the GM's that he's talked to have said the same. He said there would be 20 or so of them that would go undrafted this year that..under any normal year... would be round 5 picks. With that being said, I think we need to go DB in round 1... if it's not a reach. We can pick up a DL in rounds 2 or 3 (or later) and be fine. Id even be fine with: rounds 1-2 Safety/Corner and round 3 DL
                    But a defensive lineman may be able to provide the biggest impact versus drafting a CB into a league where the rules all but forbid him to play tight man coverage without the threat of an interference call. The DL can get after the QB which is why front 7 is much more important than back 4...IMO. Not saying you don't want competent players at CB and S but not sure you need great ones or need to spend a 1st round pick on one when you can get a good enough player in Rounds 2-4
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                    • Shawn
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      But a defensive lineman may be able to provide the biggest impact versus drafting a CB into a league where the rules all but forbid him to play tight man coverage without the threat of an interference call. The DL can get after the QB which is why front 7 is much more important than back 4...IMO. Not saying you don't want competent players at CB and S but not sure you need great ones or need to spend a 1st round pick on one when you can get a good enough player in Rounds 2-4
                      O, I know you are stuck on DL but you are not seeing the full picture here. Our best DB is William Gay. That is unacceptable. We play 50+% of our snaps with two DLmen. IMO, there won't be strong DB talent in round 2. I don't think Fuller falls that far. If Apple is there...he is the pick. The DB talent at top is solid but is not deep. IMO, this is the year they must strike at DB in the first. There will be round 1 talent falling into the second and third on DL.
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                      • phillyesq
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 7568

                        #86
                        Dulac seems pretty certain that it will be a corner in the first:

                        [url]http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/2016/04/27/Gerry-Dulac-s-Steelers-chat-4-27-16/stories/201604270141[/url]

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #87
                          A Couple of Seven-Round Mocks From Walter Football (Both solid, but I really like the second one):

                          From Walter Cherepinsky:

                          1. DT Andrew Billings, Baylor
                          2. S Jeremy Cash, Duke
                          3. CB Will Redmond, Mississippi State
                          4. OT Jerald Hawkins, LSU
                          6. QB Vernon Adams, Oregon
                          7. CB Ken Crawley, Colorado
                          7. RB Kelvin Taylor, Florida

                          [URL]http://walterfootball.com/draft2016.php[/URL]

                          From Charlie Campbell:

                          1. CB William Jackson III, Houston
                          2. DT Andrew Billings, Baylor
                          3. S/CB Sean Davis, Maryland
                          4. OLB Jatavis Brown, Akron
                          6. WR Marquez North, Tennessee
                          7. S Jarrod Wilson, Michigan
                          7. RB Kelvin Taylor, Florida

                          [URL]http://walterfootball.com/draft2016charlie.php[/URL]
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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            #88
                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                            A Couple of Seven-Round Mocks From Walter Football (Both solid, but I really like the second one):

                            From Walter Cherepinsky:

                            1. DT Andrew Billings, Baylor
                            2. S Jeremy Cash, Duke
                            3. CB Will Redmond, Mississippi State
                            4. OT Jerald Hawkins, LSU
                            6. QB Vernon Adams, Oregon
                            7. CB Ken Crawley, Colorado
                            7. RB Kelvin Taylor, Florida

                            [URL]http://walterfootball.com/draft2016.php[/URL]

                            From Charlie Campbell:

                            1. CB William Jackson III, Houston
                            2. DT Andrew Billings, Baylor
                            3. S/CB Sean Davis, Maryland
                            4. OLB Jatavis Brown, Akron
                            6. WR Marquez North, Tennessee
                            7. S Jarrod Wilson, Michigan
                            7. RB Kelvin Taylor, Florida

                            [URL]http://walterfootball.com/draft2016charlie.php[/URL]
                            Holy s--t that second mock would be a dream...especially getting Jackson AND Billings in the 2nd? Droid, please...
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • SteelYinzer
                              Benchwarmer
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 83

                              #89
                              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                              Some teams view Cravens as a SS. Others view him as a 4-3 Will backer. I don't think anyone views him as a 3-4 pass rushing OLB.
                              The reason why he fits is because I'm assuming we'll see more 4-3 looks in a hybrid system going forward. In the box SS/LB that can make plays sounds pretty good to me especially a guy some have going late 1st early 2nd. Like most of our LB picks, he'll get time to develop. Meanwhile you get a special teams demon and a hard working good football player with flexibility. I think the 3-4 OLB class this year is pretty average. Do you have any ideas for Jones replacement in rounds 2 and beyond, maybe a sleeper I'm not seeing?

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                              • Rara
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1305

                                #90
                                Javon Hargrave, DT; South Carolina State....second or third round.
                                2022 NFL Mock Draft
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                                1. Malik Willis, QB; Liberty
                                2. Daniel Faalele, OT; Minnesota
                                3. Dante Stills, DT; West Virginia
                                7. Riley Moss, CB; Iowa

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