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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    • May 2008
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    Browns trade the 2nd overall pick to Philadelphia

    Eagles acquire No. 2 overall draft pick from Browns


    By Gregg Rosenthal
    Around The NFL Editor
    Published: April 20, 2016 at 01:50 p.m.
    Updated: April 20, 2016 at 02:27 p.m.

    The top of the 2016 NFL Draft has been shaken up again. This time around, it's the Philadelphia Eagles making a bold gambit to change the future of their franchise.

    The Eagles acquired the No. 2 overall pick of the 2016 NFL Draft in a trade Wednesday with the Cleveland Browns, the Eagles announced. The Browns will receive Philadelphia's No. 8 overall pick, third- and fourth-round picks in this draft, next year's first round pick, and a second-round pick in 2018.

    It's safe to say the Eagles would only make this aggressive of a move for a quarterback. The Los Angeles Rams traded up with Tennessee less than a week ago in a blockbuster deal that resulted in the Rams acquiring the No. 1 overall pick. It's unclear who the Rams will draft first, but California quarterback Jared Goff and North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz are now fully expected to be the first two selections of the draft. Conventional wisdom has Goff going first to the Rams.

    The Eagles would clearly not make this deal if they didn't fully believe in both quarterbacks. They might have a good read on what the Rams will do at No. 1, but you don't make a franchise-altering move like this unless you are fully on board with either quarterback.

    This marks yet another bold move by Eagles executive vice president Howie Roseman since he took back the reigns of the organization from former coach Chip Kelly. It certainly gives the Eagles a loaded quarterback room. Sam Bradford -- a former No. 1 overall pick himself -- is set to make $17 million this year as the team's presumptive starter. Chase Daniel, who was the backup in Kansas City last season, is one of the highest-paid backups in the league.

    Now both Bradford and Daniel will be expected to keep the seat warm until the "quarterback of the future" is ready. It gives the Eagles an enviable "problem" to solve. As this trade shows once again, you can never have too many quarterbacks in the NFL.

    [URL]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000654501/article/eagles-acquire-no-2-overall-draft-pick-from-browns[/URL]
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.
  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Wow...the Browns are passing on the top 2 rated QBs in the draft. Must really like RG III or just the Browns being their same old stupid selves. I bet Browns fans are going insane.

    Do the Eagles want a QB or are they targeting someone else like Tunsil????? Thoughts???
    Last edited by Oviedo; 04-20-2016, 04:19 PM.
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    • RuthlessBurgher
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      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Wow...the Browns are passing on the top 2 rated QBs in the draft. Must really like RG III or just the Browns being their same old stupid selves. I bet Browns fans are going insane.

      Do the Eagles want a QB or are they targeting someone else like Tunsil????? Thoughts???
      Definitely a QB...no question about. They overpaid for Sam Bradford and Chase Daniel, but it will be easy to get out of those contracts after this year.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • buccoray61
        Starter
        • Jul 2009
        • 945

        #4
        Actually,it's a pretty smart move by the Browns although I really like Wentz as a QB prospect.Still,knowing the Browns I look forward to this blowing up in their face.

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        • steeler_george
          Hall of Famer
          • Dec 2008
          • 3417

          #5
          Actually the browns made out on this trade, they need talent all over! Is Wentz or Goef really that much a better prospect than say Lynch in a few years? What scares me is that might end up Elliott!!!

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          • RuthlessBurgher
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            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            Originally posted by buccoray61
            Actually,it's a pretty smart move by the Browns although I really like Wentz as a QB prospect.Still,knowing the Browns I look forward to this blowing up in their face.
            To trade up to get Julio Jones, Atlanta gave Cleveland a 1st, 2nd, and 4th in 2011 and a 1st and 4th in 2012. Should have been the building blocks for their future, but they turned those picks into NT Phil Taylor, WR Greg Little, RB Owen Marecic, QB Brandon Weeden, and used the 4th to move up in 2012 for RB Trent Richardson. Draft prospects should be praying that they aren't taken by Cleveland, since they are apparently cursed.
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • Iron City Inc.
              Hall of Famer
              • Jun 2013
              • 3237

              #7
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Wow...the Browns are passing on the top 2 rated QBs in the draft. Must really like RG III or just the Browns being their same old stupid selves. I bet Browns fans are going insane.

              Do the Eagles want a QB or are they targeting someone else like Tunsil????? Thoughts???
              Can't speak for what browns fans may think of this. I have been to Philly for a bunch of Steeler games. Their fans are booing already I guarantee it.

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              • phillyesq
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 7568

                #8
                Given that the Browns have decided that Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, and Manziel - among others - were worth of first round picks, their decision to trade out of taking a QB is probably a strong endorsement of Wentz and Goff.

                The only thing I don't like is that the Ravens are now guaranteed to get one of Jalen Ramsey, Joey Bosa, Myles Jack or Tunsil. They will get a really good player at 6.

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                • RuthlessBurgher
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                  • May 2008
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by phillyesq
                  Given that the Browns have decided that Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, and Manziel - among others - were worth of first round picks, their decision to trade out of taking a QB is probably a strong endorsement of Wentz and Goff.

                  The only thing I don't like is that the Ravens are now guaranteed to get one of Jalen Ramsey, Joey Bosa, Myles Jack or Tunsil. They will get a really good player at 6.
                  Unless they like Buckner, Elliott, Hargreaves, or Stanley more.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • phillyesq
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                    • May 2008
                    • 7568

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    Unless they like Buckner, Elliott, Hargreaves, or Stanley more.
                    I don't want to see Buckner in Baltimore, either. The other 3 will likely be good players, but I don't see them being a nightmare for the Steelers the way the others would be.

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                    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                      • May 2008
                      • 10281

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      To trade up to get Julio Jones, Atlanta gave Cleveland a 1st, 2nd, and 4th in 2011 and a 1st and 4th in 2012. Should have been the building blocks for their future, but they turned those picks into NT Phil Taylor, WR Greg Little, RB Owen Marecic, QB Brandon Weeden, and used the 4th to move up in 2012 for RB Trent Richardson. Draft prospects should be praying that they aren't taken by Cleveland, since they are apparently cursed.
                      Funny, I was thinking about 2014. I was worried that the Browns would grab Sammy Watkins and pair him with Gordon, torching the Steelers secondary for years to come. Instead they traded back, took the very soft CB Justin Gilbert, took Johnny (can't play) Football, and lost Gordon to a drug suspension - which should have given them more reason to stay put and grab Watkins.
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                      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                        • May 2008
                        • 10281

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        Definitely a QB...no question about. They overpaid for Sam Bradford and Chase Daniel, but it will be easy to get out of those contracts after this year.
                        I'll bet they even placed a call to the Rams. Something along the lines of "You have the first pick so nothing we can do to screw you over, but which one are you grabbing, Wentz or Goff?

                        That being said, I can't believe the price for moving up these days. Not since the ridiculous Ditka grabbing Smokey Williams trade have I seen it this crazy.
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                        • RuthlessBurgher
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                          #13
                          I expect the Eagles to try to trade Bradford to the Jets or Broncos or Bills or even to old pal Chip Kelly in San Fran...if they eat the signing bonus dollars they just gave him, his base salary should be somewhat palatable to his new team in terms of what other starting QB's are getting these days...perhaps enough so to recoup a decent midround pick back in return. Philly will be fine with Daniel starting until the rook is ready for prime time.
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                            I expect the Eagles to try to trade Bradford to the Jets or Broncos or Bills or even to old pal Chip Kelly in San Fran...if they eat the signing bonus dollars they just gave him, his base salary should be somewhat palatable to his new team in terms of what other starting QB's are getting these days...perhaps enough so to recoup a decent midround pick back in return. Philly will be fine with Daniel starting until the rook is ready for prime time.
                            I actually think they keep Bradford for this season. I think they are smart enough not to throw Wentz in coming from a 1AA program. I do see Bradford moving on after the season.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #15
                              By making this trade, The Browns have virtually guaranteed that Wentz and Goff will be at least decent pro football players while any QB that they pick (like Lynch or Cardale Jones) will suck...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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