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  • steelerkeylargo
    Hall of Famer
    • Mar 2009
    • 2507

    SKL Mock #1

    First off it's good to get back on the board and see a few familiar names. Per my usual it seems I spend more time here in the offseason. Wish we still had one more game to play. Lets get down to the brass tacks. This mock as usual is not necessarily what I think Kevin Colbert will do, but what I would do if I were him. First off.....I think the talent at the back end of this years first round screams trade down. With that I'd like to trade out of the first round with a team in the top 5 of round 2 (Dallas and Tenn would be strong considerations), picking up an extra 3rd rounder in the process. This gives us 4 picks in the top 100. Here we go.

    2a) Kendall Fuller-CB-VaTech-Obvious talent meets need value. A strong CB class and a meniscus lets Fuller drop into the top of the second round.
    2b) Vernon Butler-DT-LaTech-The DL needs some help. Butler is a disruptive force who could be a rotational player from week 1 and a starter by week 8
    3a) Karl Joseph-S-WVU-This kid is one of my favorite players in the draft. Would have been the first Safety picked before he got hurt. Ryan Clark 2.0
    3b) Zack Sanchez-CB-Oklahoma-He is a bit on the light side but has a nose for the football and is so gritty. The secondary transformation continues.
    4) Cody Kessler-QB-USC-Obvious need to get a kid to develop behind Ben. Landry is not the answer. Kessler could be a McCarron type QB for us.
    7) Mike Mathews-C-TAMU-Bloodlines
    7) Riley Dixon-P-Syracuse-Please....no more Berry






  • Steelwolf
    Pro Bowler
    • Jul 2014
    • 1294

    #2
    Honestly that is a sweet mock! I'd be all for moving out of the first.

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    • winwithd
      Starter
      • Nov 2009
      • 895

      #3
      Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
      First off it's good to get back on the board and see a few familiar names. Per my usual it seems I spend more time here in the offseason. Wish we still had one more game to play. Lets get down to the brass tacks. This mock as usual is not necessarily what I think Kevin Colbert will do, but what I would do if I were him. First off.....I think the talent at the back end of this years first round screams trade down. With that I'd like to trade out of the first round with a team in the top 5 of round 2 (Dallas and Tenn would be strong considerations), picking up an extra 3rd rounder in the process. This gives us 4 picks in the top 100. Here we go.

      2a) Kendall Fuller-CB-VaTech-Obvious talent meets need value. A strong CB class and a meniscus lets Fuller drop into the top of the second round.
      2b) Vernon Butler-DT-LaTech-The DL needs some help. Butler is a disruptive force who could be a rotational player from week 1 and a starter by week 8
      3a) Karl Joseph-S-WVU-This kid is one of my favorite players in the draft. Would have been the first Safety picked before he got hurt. Ryan Clark 2.0
      3b) Zack Sanchez-CB-Oklahoma-He is a bit on the light side but has a nose for the football and is so gritty. The secondary transformation continues.
      4) Cody Kessler-QB-USC-Obvious need to get a kid to develop behind Ben. Landry is not the answer. Kessler could be a McCarron type QB for us.
      7) Mike Mathews-C-TAMU-Bloodlines
      7) Riley Dixon-P-Syracuse-Please....no more Berry
      Maybe the numbers tell a different story, but I thought Berry was having a good year except for the last game and he is young.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27532

        #4
        How many times have we traded down in the first round?
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • steeler_george
          Hall of Famer
          • Dec 2008
          • 3417

          #5
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          How many times have we traded down in the first round?
          I can't recall trading out of the first, but we have in the second round, so never know.

          Slap, nice early mock....

          Fuller sounds very, very interesting and worthy of our top choice.
          I have been hearing a lot of positives on how Butler, but is his height scares me, and is 2nd too high for a future rotation player? Would a Safety or OL be of better value?

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          • steelerkeylargo
            Hall of Famer
            • Mar 2009
            • 2507

            #6
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            How many times have we traded down in the first round?
            Santonio Holmes






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            • phillyesq
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 7568

              #7
              Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
              Santonio Holmes
              SKL, good to see you back.

              On Holmes, the Steelers actually moved up few spots to grab him. I generally like your mock, but I wonder if you can still get Fuller if you move down. Especially with the Ravens, with their awful secondary, picking in the top 5 picks.

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              • SteelerMaine83
                Starter
                • Feb 2013
                • 826

                #8
                I like getting more picks, but the CB talent after Fuller and Apple drops off dramatically. Trading down may take away that opportunity land either one of them. That said, if your draft played out, it's sweet! Sanchez is a next tier talent for CB, so that's a good pick, and I love picking anyone from the Matthews family. Nice draft.

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                • steelerkeylargo
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 2507

                  #9
                  Originally posted by phillyesq
                  SKL, good to see you back.

                  On Holmes, the Steelers actually moved up few spots to grab him. I generally like your mock, but I wonder if you can still get Fuller if you move down. Especially with the Ravens, with their awful secondary, picking in the top 5 picks.
                  Thx philly ....yes you are correct....Casey Hampton I believe was the last trade down in the first. A handful of other trade downs in 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds in the Colbert era. Like I said. This is just how I would approach it. Unfortunately we don't seem to do a great job drafting DB talent so we may need to take a couple. Butler may be a riser as the process unfolds so we will see. I'm sure there will be a handful of revisions.






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                  • Oviedo
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #10
                    Local paper identified the following who excelled

                    [url]http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-the-10-players-who-helped-themselves-the-most-at-the-senior-bowl-20160130-photogallery.html[/url]

                    Southeastern La CB Harlan Miller could be mid rounder
                    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                    • SidSmythe
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4708

                      #11
                      Nice mock, but what is wrong w/ Berry?? Am I missing something??
                      Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                      Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                      Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                      • Shoe
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4044

                        #12
                        Most of the time, most of us agree that trading down is a good idea. I think this year, is a year where we'll have plenty of guys worth taking when our pick is up. I think it will be like the year when Decastro fell to us at #24 or whatever it was.
                        I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                        • steelerkeylargo
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 2507

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SidSmythe
                          Nice mock, but what is wrong w/ Berry?? Am I missing something??

                          Other than the fact that he was 30th out of 32 punters and he continually fails in clutch spots? Nothing






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                          • SidSmythe
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 4708

                            #14
                            Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
                            Other than the fact that he was 30th out of 32 punters and he continually fails in clutch spots? Nothing
                            Looking at the numbers he was in thr middle of the pack in NET which is a far more important stat......considering he was by far the best at getting the ball inside the 20 and Fair Catch percentage.

                            The numbers tell me he kicked in a short field a majority of the time and returners weren't offered much of a chance to field the ball.

                            Competition is fine but I would go out and draft a Punter.
                            Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                            Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                            Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #15
                              Berry was also a rookie...he'll most likely improve his distance and "clutchness"...as pointed out, he was great at punting inside the 20 and fair catch opportunities...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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