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  • pittpete
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    • Aug 2008
    • 6825

    What to do with Jarvis Jones?

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  • BradshawsHairdresser
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    • Dec 2008
    • 7056

    #2
    If they knew he would continue to play like he did in these last two games, I think it would make their decision much easier.

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    • LordVile
      Starter
      • Sep 2009
      • 834

      #3
      i wouldn't extend him. i would just let him play out the coming season and see if he improves and go from there. so far he's been a BUM.. 2 sacks?? pathetic... DUPREE has outplayed him already..
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      • Slapstick
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 0

        #4
        It seems like a no brainer...

        Pick up the 5th year option...apparently, it costs nothing in 2016 and can be rescinded without penalty prior to the 2017 season...
        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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        • Oviedo
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          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #5
          Unless he gets close to double digit sacks (8+) next year don't waste anymore money on him because we will have to draft someone who can perform at OLB anyway. Like I have said for three years: great high motor but he doesn't have the ability or explosiveness to beat or even challenge a Left Tackle on a regular basis like a ROLB should. Hopefully even his fan club can see he won't ever be a consistent producer rushing the QB which, no matter how much revisionist history is engaged in, is what he was drafted to do.
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          • fezziwig
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2009
            • 3515

            #6
            Originally posted by LordVile
            i wouldn't extend him. i would just let him play out the coming season and see if he improves and go from there. so far he's been a BUM.. 2 sacks?? pathetic... DUPREE has outplayed him already..
            Exactly. Sorry that I can't get excited over a number one draft pick guy that only has 5 sacks in 36 games. He's a bust in my opinion. Despite his sacks or how ever you like to judge a guy he shows very little. For a guy wearing Greg Llyods number you think that alone would make him standout. And it doesn't.
            Last edited by fezziwig; 01-25-2016, 10:29 AM.

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            • papillon
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              • Mar 2008
              • 11340

              #7
              Originally posted by fezziwig
              Exactly. Sorry that I can't get excited over a number draft pick guy that only has 5 sacks in 36 games. He's a bust in my opinion. Despite his sacks or how ever you like to judge a guy he shows very little. For a guy wearing Greg Llyods number you think that alone would make him standout. And it doesn't.
              Yea, but, not picking up the 5th year seems like a dumb idea, because if he doesn't have a good year next year, you cut him and move with minimal affect on the cap. If he has a great year, then you have him for the 5th year and you negotiate a contract. Releasing him now makes no sense, IMO, he's part of the rotation and has some experience, I have a feeling 1.25 might be an OLB if available.

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              • fezziwig
                Hall of Famer
                • Jan 2009
                • 3515

                #8
                Originally posted by papillon
                Yea, but, not picking up the 5th year seems like a dumb idea, because if he doesn't have a good year next year, you cut him and move with minimal affect on the cap. If he has a great year, then you have him for the 5th year and you negotiate a contract. Releasing him now makes no sense, IMO, he's part of the rotation and has some experience, I have a feeling 1.25 might be an OLB if available.

                Pappy
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                • RuthlessBurgher
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                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  Unless he gets close to double digit sacks (8+) next year don't waste anymore money on him because we will have to draft someone who can perform at OLB anyway. Like I have said for three years: great high motor but he doesn't have the ability or explosiveness to beat or even challenge a Left Tackle on a regular basis like a ROLB should. Hopefully even his fan club can see he won't ever be a consistent producer rushing the QB which, no matter how much revisionist history is engaged in, is what he was drafted to do.
                  What if we moved to your beloved 4-3 and made Jarvis a traditional SAM backer instead of an edge rusher? Timmons would be your MIKE backer and Shazier your WILL backer. Put Bud Dupree's hand on the ground and make him your weakside DE, Cam Heyward your strongside DE, Tuitt your 3-technique DT, and McLendon your 1-technique NT. Would your opinion of Jarvis change? Just curious...
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                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

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                  • phillyesq
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 7568

                    #10
                    Originally posted by papillon
                    Yea, but, not picking up the 5th year seems like a dumb idea, because if he doesn't have a good year next year, you cut him and move with minimal affect on the cap. If he has a great year, then you have him for the 5th year and you negotiate a contract. Releasing him now makes no sense, IMO, he's part of the rotation and has some experience, I have a feeling 1.25 might be an OLB if available.

                    Pappy
                    I think you are dead on. There is almost no downside to picking up the option since you can essentially rescind it without penalty. Pick up the option now, and if Jones plays like he did the last two games, great. If not, you terminate the option and try to resign him to a Moats like contract.

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                    • SteelerOfDeVille
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                      • May 2008
                      • 9069

                      #11
                      it's also hard to be a statistical beast when you're part time... not that he'd be a double-digit guy, but, we all have seen that when it's crunch time and we know the other team is passing, JH is on the field.

                      Was he drafted too high? Yup. But, frankly, I'm thinking Clark Haggans when I see him. I was hoping for more, but, wouldn't be upset with that. They can't all be Peezy
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                      • Northern_Blitz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 24373

                        #12
                        Originally posted by papillon
                        Yea, but, not picking up the 5th year seems like a dumb idea, because if he doesn't have a good year next year, you cut him and move with minimal affect on the cap. If he has a great year, then you have him for the 5th year and you negotiate a contract. Releasing him now makes no sense, IMO, he's part of the rotation and has some experience, I have a feeling 1.25 might be an OLB if available.

                        Pappy
                        This is what the Steelers will do. It's also the right call in my opinion. Very little down side, high upside.

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                        • fezziwig
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3515

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          What if we moved to your beloved 4-3 and made Jarvis a traditional SAM backer instead of an edge rusher? Timmons would be your MIKE backer and Shazier your WILL backer. Put Bud Dupree's hand on the ground and make him your weakside DE, Cam Heyward your strongside DE, Tuitt your 3-technique DT, and McLendon your 1-technique NT. Would your opinion of Jarvis change? Just curious...
                          My beloved ? Ask the Steeler organization to move to a 4-3. From what I understand and listening to the interviews when Jarvis was first drafted, Tomlin and Colbert both said this current system is a natural fit for Jarvis. I didn't follow him in college so I'd have to feel they saw something in him as they said that should have made him a productive player as they thought. What ever reason or the system Jarvis, isn't getting it done IMHO. I personally expect more from a number one player but understand it doesn't always work out that way.

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                          • Oviedo
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                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                            What if we moved to your beloved 4-3 and made Jarvis a traditional SAM backer instead of an edge rusher? Timmons would be your MIKE backer and Shazier your WILL backer. Put Bud Dupree's hand on the ground and make him your weakside DE, Cam Heyward your strongside DE, Tuitt your 3-technique DT, and McLendon your 1-technique NT. Would your opinion of Jarvis change? Just curious...

                            His benefits and liabilities would still be seen on the field...high motor but not fast or explosive enough. He would struggle covering TEs which the SAM has to do at times.
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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #15
                              Originally posted by fezziwig
                              My beloved ? Ask the Steeler organization to move to a 4-3. From what I understand and listening to the interviews when Jarvis was first drafted, Tomlin and Colbert both said this current system is a natural fit for Jarvis. I didn't follow him in college so I'd have to feel they saw something in him as they said that should have made him a productive player as they thought. What ever reason or the system Jarvis, isn't getting it done IMHO. I personally expect more from a number one player but understand it doesn't always work out that way.
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