Fitzgerald Toussaint "inconsolable" after Steelers loss

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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #31
    Originally posted by RobinCole
    OK, I say again, the Steeler team that took the field against Denver Sunday night was not the more talented team.

    Don't totally agree. I think we were almost equally talented on offense but not close on defense.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27532

      #32
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Don't totally agree. I think we were almost equally talented on offense but not close on defense.
      we were definitely more talented on offense.

      no where close on defense but with a gimpy Peyton I think we had an advantage on defense, we just had short fields to deal with for most of the day.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • RobinCole
        Pro Bowler
        • Apr 2014
        • 1358

        #33
        Ovi, looks to me like you totally agree.

        If only this discussion meant something, huh? Then we could work on the economy and foreign policy and solve a lot of problems.

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #34
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          we were definitely more talented on offense.

          no where close on defense but with a gimpy Peyton I think we had an advantage on defense, we just had short fields to deal with for most of the day.
          In this game, were we really more talented on offense? Martavis Bryant is a poor man's Demaryius Thomas and Markus Wheaton is a poor man's Emmanuel Sanders. Thomas is averaging 1445 yards over the last 4 seasons and Sanders is averaging 1270 yards in his 2 seasons in Denver so far, while neither Bryant nor Wheaton has ever had even 800 yards receiving in a season yet...we can only hope that MB and MW are able to fulfill that potential and reach those ceilings someday. Denver had their top 2 RB's in Hillman and Anderson (they combined for 1583 rushing yards this season), while we have our 4th and 5th options at RB in journeymen Touissant and Todman. Heath Miller and Owen Daniels are essentially a push in terms of offensive production, but their 2nd TE is Vernon Davis, who is certainly more accomplished than Matt Spaeth or Jesse James. Just sayin'
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #35
            Originally posted by NorthCoast
            Are you giving him some 'tough love'?
            No, he is just demonstrating how stupid some people can be.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #36
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              In this game, were we really more talented on offense? Martavis Bryant is a poor man's Demaryius Thomas and Markus Wheaton is a poor man's Emmanuel Sanders. Thomas is averaging 1445 yards over the last 4 seasons and Sanders is averaging 1270 yards in his 2 seasons in Denver so far, while neither Bryant nor Wheaton has ever had even 800 yards receiving in a season yet...we can only hope that MB and MW are able to fulfill that potential and reach those ceilings someday. Denver had their top 2 RB's in Hillman and Anderson (they combined for 1583 rushing yards this season), while we have our 4th and 5th options at RB in journeymen Touissant and Todman. Heath Miller and Owen Daniels are essentially a push in terms of offensive production, but their 2nd TE is Vernon Davis, who is certainly more accomplished than Matt Spaeth or Jesse James. Just sayin'
              With a healthy and younger Peyton Manning I would agree. However, those WR were useless and they dropped more passes than our WR.

              Ben makes our WR better IMO.

              oh, and Vernon Davis is done.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #37
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                With a healthy and younger Peyton Manning I would agree. However, those WR were useless and they dropped more passes than our WR.

                Ben makes our WR better IMO.

                oh, and Vernon Davis is done.
                Their WRs didn't play well in that game, but without AB they are the more talented group...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • squidkid
                  Legend
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 5847

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  No, he is just demonstrating how stupid some people can be.

                  okay, how's this?
                  i'm happy that he fumbled and it led to us losing. not happy we lost, but happy because he tried really hard and gave it a good effort.
                  boy, i feel like a real fan now
                  steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                  • RobinCole
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1358

                    #39
                    "I'm happy that he fumbled and it led to us losing, not happy we lost".

                    Get help. You've got a case of the blathers.

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                    • Chucktownsteeler
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6849

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      Picking high in each round is a huge benefit. Just look at the Bumgals. They are the team they are because of constantly having high draft picks to the point even they couldn't screw it up forever.
                      The Cleveland Browns fan base says "Huh"????????
                      Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                      I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                      • phillyesq
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 7568

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                        Actually, this is what makes Bell missed even more than the ability to run.
                        He does so much after the catch Ben began to LOOK for him and forced it less often.

                        As well as Deangelo played, Bell as a receiver was something special and Ben is much better with him.
                        Really great point about Bell.

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #42
                          Toussaint: 'It's still hard to this day'
                          Posted 7 hours ago


                          Teresa Varley
                          Steelers.com


                          While he has moved forward, Fitz Toussaint still thinks about that one play.

                          It’s been a little over two months and there are still times when the thoughts enter Fitzgerald Toussaint’s mind.

                          “I think about where we might have been,” said Toussaint. “It’s crazy. It was hard. It’s still hard to this day. I think about it.”

                          The Steelers were holding on to a 13-12 lead over the Denver Broncos in the fourth quarter of the AFC Divisional playoff game and the offense was moving the ball. On second-and-four, Toussaint went around left end and was hit by cornerback Bradley Roby, the ball popped free and DeMarcus Ware recovered. The Broncos got the ball back, took a 20-13 lead and never looked back.


                          “It was tough to get over,” said Toussaint. “Fumbling is not what I do. I never had a problem with that. For that to happen, to a team like this that worked so hard, that’s what I was disappointed about. It was never personal. It was never about me, or anything, it was about the team. I let the team down. I didn’t care about anything else. I knew how hard Coach (Mike) Tomlin worked for this.

                          “I am a new guy. I am new to all of this. I am trying to make a mark here and I got in the way a little bit with that situation. I feel like I owed them something. I have something to prove. They might not feel like that, but I feel like that. Any work I put in is going to be towards fixing that situation and not letting it happen again.”

                          Toussaint said the best thing for him was the reaction from his teammates, who showed him support when he was down.

                          “It was beautiful to hear from everyone,” said Toussaint. “Ben (Roethlisberger) talked to me multiple times after the game. That made me feel good; that was a breath of fresh air. He made me feel like I put in some good, quality work and that helped with the situation. Overall the love was tremendous.

                          “I could count on my fingers how many times someone talked negative, but it’s out of this world how much love I got.”

                          * * *

                          Where most of the support for Toussaint came from, the love, the strength and inspiration was from his family. Mainly his mother, Elaine Edwards, who he gets his fight from.

                          “She has been a waitress for 29 years and raised five kids off of tips,” said Toussaint. “That was hard on her. She has been through so many things. The way she fought through adversity made me feel that toughness. I really take pride in that. Most guys get their toughness from different areas, or some athletic source. I get mine from home.”

                          Toussaint sat quiet for a second, and you could tell there was more on his mind. More on why she inspired him so much. And then he opened up, about a car accident several years ago that almost took Edwards life. About the night a car hit her from behind, flipped over her car and almost exploded.

                          “She almost died in a car accident,” he quietly shared. “They weren’t sure what happened, if the other driver was tired or drunk, I still don’t know. She almost died. I was at school and she didn’t tell me for a couple of days because she didn’t want me to mess up my mental state. I found out and the three to four hour drive from Michigan was the fastest drive ever. When I got there it was sad to see my mother in that position. It hit home for me.

                          “Doctors don’t know how she wasn’t paralyzed from that situation. Just the way she recovered from that was drastic. It was crazy, it’s unbelievable. It’s like it never happened. She fought. She still tried to go to work. Even to this day, I give her a little something to help, but she still wants to go to work and do things on her own. I look at that as motivation for sure.”

                          And there is more.

                          “She was diagnosed with lupus as well and she still fought,” said Toussaint. “Once you see her, you would never be able to tell she has been through so much because she is so tough.”

                          * * *

                          Toussaint’s road to the NFL was not an easy one. He wasn’t drafted, wasn’t even signed as an undrafted free agent in the days following the 2014 NFL Draft. Instead he was offered a tryout with the Baltimore Ravens, and shortly thereafter got a call back to come in because they needed some depth at running back. He was released by the Ravens before the start of the regular season, signed to the practice squad, added to the active roster, released, signed back to the practice squad, added to the active roster again, released again, and back to the practice squad. All in less than a month. He finished that season on the active roster, but was eventually let go before the start of the 2015 season.

                          It would be enough to make anyone want to just pack it in, the ups and downs and the emotional rollercoaster just too overwhelming. But that isn’t what Toussaint is made of. That wasn’t the fight his mother put inside of him.

                          Toussaint was signed to the Steelers practice squad just two days after the Ravens released him for the final time, and added to the active roster on Nov. 27. For him, this season has been the opportunity he was waiting for.

                          “I am a very patient guy,” he said. “I work hard until my opportunity comes. That is why when an opportunity does approach, I am confident because I put in the work that I need. It was very valuable being on the practice squad this season. I was able to sit back and learn from those guys. I wasn’t getting the physical reps always, but I was getting the mental reps.”

                          He heeded the advice given to him by veterans like DeAngelo Williams, who encouraged him to stay focused and always lay everything on the line, but all the while have fun. He kept his head in the playbook, both while he was at work and in his free time. And when his turn came, when he outplayed veterans ahead of him and worked his way onto the active roster, he was ready.

                          “The confidence is there,” said Toussaint. “It’s something I worked for. I never take it for granted. I just go out there and work hard and lay it on the line every day.

                          “When you are a kid it’s something you always dreamt of. A guy like me who has scratched and clawed, it’s definitely a tremendous feeling. That is every man’s dream and it’s all God.”


                          [URL]http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Toussaint-Its-still-hard-to-this-day/88382c72-7444-4c91-a6ae-bf56ab1cdf05[/URL]
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #43
                            Fitzgerald Toussaint ready to move past playoff fumble
                            Posted by Curtis Crabtree on June 14, 2016, 1:00 AM EDT


                            Fitzgerald Toussaint’s fumble in the fourth quarter of Pittsburgh’s 23-16 playoff defeat to the Denver Broncos was a pivotal moment that helped end the Steelers’ season and allowed the Broncos to continue on to a Super Bowl 50 victory.

                            With Pittsburgh holding a 13-12 lead and driving into Denver territory, Toussaint had the football dislodged from his left arm by cornerback Bradley Roby to give the Broncos a needed momentum boost. Six minutes later, the Broncos scored the go-ahead touchdown to propel them to AFC Championship game.

                            According to Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Toussaint is hoping to prove himself again and move beyond the mistake from last January.

                            “That (fumble) doesn’t define me as a player nor does it define me as a person,” Toussaint said. “It was difficult situation, but not just for me but for the team because I know how hard they worked before I even got here. I am working to put myself in that position never to do that again.”

                            Toussaint had been called upon to grab a greater role following season-ending injuries to Le’Veon Bell and DeAngelo Williams. He scored Pittsburgh’s only touchdown of the game on a 1-yard run in the first quarter before the late fumble gave Denver a chance to make a comeback.

                            With Bell still doing rehab work from last year’s knee injuries, Toussaint should get ample opportunities in training camp and the preseason to make a significant impression and push memories of the fumble against Denver to the back burner.

                            [URL]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/14/fitzgerald-toussaint-ready-to-move-past-playoff-fumble/[/URL]
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • SteelCrazy
                              Legend
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5049

                              #44
                              Still makes me cry when I think about it.....
                              2019 Mock

                              1. ILB
                              2. CB
                              3. ILB
                              4. S
                              5. CB
                              6. ILB
                              7. S

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                              • AzStillers1989
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 1286

                                #45
                                I was thinking about this fumble yesterday and kind of depressed at the thought as well. I really felt like we would have gone to score a touchdown or at the very least a FG to force Denver to score a TD....

                                This got me thinking.... IF we had gone to score a TD that would put us up by 7... What are the chances we would have just gone for 2 and tried to make it a two score game?

                                My feelings are that we would have gone for 2... going up by 8 just forces denver to make one more play to tie it. Howver, going up by 9 really would have all but cemented our place in the AFCCG....


                                Oh well, its in the past. Here's hoping this season ends with the Steelers as the last team to win a football game!!!!
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