Two point conversion

[buccoray61]

Not complaining,I'm thrilled with the 'W",but was going for 2 when the Steelers did the right call? Steelers score a TD which puts them up by 11,if they kick the PAT they are up 12,a 2 TD game,the 2 point conversion puts them up 13,still a 2 TD game,however if they fail on the 2,it's an 11 point lead,which a Brown TD plus a 2 point conversion and a field goal ties the game. Am I missing something?

[flippy]

I thought the same thing. I really think Tomlin needs a game manager that tells him what to do throughout a game because he takes too much unneeded risk. I really wish he'd go by the numbers sometimes.

[MCHammer]

Agreed. It's a billion dollar business. Some things can be left to your "gut." Math isn't one of them.

But it will continue and it will eventually cost us.

[Slapstick]

Well, if you want to go by math...

XPs were converted at a 94% rate this year...

2 pt tries were converted at a 47% rate this year...

Therefore, 100 attempts of each would yield 94 points...

The Steelers converted a record number of 2 pt tries this year at a 72.7%...we made only 90.6% of our extra point tries...

Therefore, 100 2 point tries would yield 144-146 points while 100 XPs would yield 90-91 points...

[MCHammer]

Well, if you want to go by math...

XPs were converted at a 94% rate this year...

2 pt tries were converted at a 47% rate this year...

Therefore, 100 attempts of each would yield 94 points...

The Steelers converted a record number of 2 pt tries this year at a 72.7%...we made only 90.6% of our extra point tries...

Therefore, 100 2 point tries would yield 144-146 points while 100 XPs would yield 90-91 points...

Thanks for the math lesson. I'll be sure to remind you of it when we lose a game by 1 point after failing on an unnecessary 2 pt conversion. Hopefully, it will not occur this post-season.

[flippy]

Well, if you want to go by math...

XPs were converted at a 94% rate this year...

2 pt tries were converted at a 47% rate this year...

Therefore, 100 attempts of each would yield 94 points...

The Steelers converted a record number of 2 pt tries this year at a 72.7%...we made only 90.6% of our extra point tries...

Therefore, 100 2 point tries would yield 144-146 points while 100 XPs would yield 90-91 points...

And the SeaHawks should go for it on every 4th down because they convert a league leading 90% of the time.

Gotta love Math

[feltdizz]

I dont care... when you are hot, go for 2.

If we lose, it more than likely won't be because of a 2pt conversion.

[MCHammer]

I dont care... when you are hot, go for 2.

If we lose, it more than likely won't be because of a 2pt conversion.

Taking unnecessary risks is bad. This simple life lesson also applies to football.

[MCHammer]

And the SeaHawks should go for it on every 4th down because they convert a league leading 90% of the time.

Gotta love Math

Bingo. This is not that complicated. Some people will argue anything regardless of objective reality.

[Steelerphile]

Taking unnecessary risks is bad. This simple life lesson also applies to football.

You can also be overly protective and think the only way to win is doing everything in a safe way. That is not how sports works IMO. You have to be willing to be aggressive and take some chances. Some of them will fail but you will benefit more from than mentality than not. I don't see why a 2-pt conversion try against Cleveland was so risky. Cleveland was a team that was not putting things together the entire year or in this game. That is a good team to sharpen your 2-pt conversion skills against.

[Oviedo]

Well, if you want to go by math...

XPs were converted at a 94% rate this year...

2 pt tries were converted at a 47% rate this year...

Therefore, 100 attempts of each would yield 94 points...

The Steelers converted a record number of 2 pt tries this year at a 72.7%...we made only 90.6% of our extra point tries...

Therefore, 100 2 point tries would yield 144-146 points while 100 XPs would yield 90-91 points...

Slappy---you're the man!!!!

I wonder if our proficiency with two point conversions may be our secret weapon in the play offs????????

[Oviedo]

Taking unnecessary risks is bad. This simple life lesson also applies to football.

Depends on your definition of a "risk"

[papillon]

Well, if you want to go by math...

XPs were converted at a 94% rate this year...

2 pt tries were converted at a 47% rate this year...

Therefore, 100 attempts of each would yield 94 points...

The Steelers converted a record number of 2 pt tries this year at a 72.7%...we made only 90.6% of our extra point tries...

Therefore, 100 2 point tries would yield 144-146 points while 100 XPs would yield 90-91 points...

Well, what this means is that Mike Tomlin took a 47% chance (failing on the 2 pt conversion) of keeping the Browns within a TD and a FG rather than 94% chance of forcing them to need two TDs. Why? Forcing a team to have to score 2 TDs is better than them needing a TD and FG. It didn't make sense at the time and it doesn't make sense today, of course, they were successful, so the Browns needed 2 TDs which they would have needed had he allowed Boswell to take the 94% probability XP.

Pappy

[MCHammer]

Depends on your definition of a "risk"

Actually, it depends entirely upon the term "unnecessary." There are times, mathematically, when it makes sense to go for two. All other times you go for one. It is simple. People who don't understand it are wrong.

I realize that's some tough medicine for some to take, but I don't have a lot of patience for this nonesene and nor should the Rooneys.

[feltdizz]

Taking unnecessary risks is bad. This simple life lesson also applies to football.

not really...

down by 1 with 5 minutes less it's probably a good idea to tie the game but once you are in rhythm or if we score first I say try for 2.