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  • Iron City Inc.
    Hall of Famer
    • Jun 2013
    • 3241

    Kudos to O Line n D Line.

    Heyward and Tuitt were solid again today. Their ability to get off blocks continues to impress me. Both have great motors and that is always impressive even late in the game they still have it going full throttle.
    O line just needs some credit as Ben stayed clean all day and considering he couldn't move that well was just a flat out solid body of work. AV and Gilbert allowed our big play guys to do their thing and it often goes unnoticed. 66 and 73 inside were extremely physical and that was a little old school football there.
    Trenches are where it's at and today we should all be proud of what we saw. Guys that don't get much credit because they are not on fantasy rosters played a huge roll in this W.
  • BradshawsHairdresser
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 7056

    #2
    Good post and agreed on all points.

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    • bostonsteeler
      Pro Bowler
      • Oct 2008
      • 1529

      #3
      Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
      Heyward and Tuitt were solid again today. Their ability to get off blocks continues to impress me. Both have great motors and that is always impressive even late in the game they still have it going full throttle.
      O line just needs some credit as Ben stayed clean all day and considering he couldn't move that well was just a flat out solid body of work. AV and Gilbert allowed our big play guys to do their thing and it often goes unnoticed. 66 and 73 inside were extremely physical and that was a little old school football there.
      Trenches are where it's at and today we should all be proud of what we saw. Guys that don't get much credit because they are not on fantasy rosters played a huge roll in this W.
      Manziel had nearly 400 yards.

      I'm an "every silver lining has a cloud" kinda guy..

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      • Snatch98
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1451

        #4
        Originally posted by bostonsteeler
        Manziel had nearly 400 yards.

        I'm an "every silver lining has a cloud" kinda guy..
        And 9 points to show for it. I don't give a damn if we give up 600 yards so long as we win and continue to force turnovers. Bend but don't break.

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        • Slapstick
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 0

          #5
          I was amazed by the play Heyward made, pancaking Cam Erving into the backfield at the snap and practically taking the handoff...making the TFL...
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #6
            Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
            Heyward and Tuitt were solid again today. Their ability to get off blocks continues to impress me. Both have great motors and that is always impressive even late in the game they still have it going full throttle.
            O line just needs some credit as Ben stayed clean all day and considering he couldn't move that well was just a flat out solid body of work. AV and Gilbert allowed our big play guys to do their thing and it often goes unnoticed. 66 and 73 inside were extremely physical and that was a little old school football there.
            Trenches are where it's at and today we should all be proud of what we saw. Guys that don't get much credit because they are not on fantasy rosters played a huge roll in this W.

            On the D Line I give full credit to Butler for letting those guys play to the fullest of their abilities. he has the defense attacking and making difference making sacks and turnovers. It is a exciting change compared to the past few years and Butler is doing it with essentially the same players and probably a worse secondary.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #7
              Originally posted by Snatch98
              And 9 points to show for it. I don't give a damn if we give up 600 yards so long as we win and continue to force turnovers. Bend but don't break.

              That is because Butler has the defense attacking and they are getting sacks and turnovers which kill opponents momentum and changes games. You saw it yesterday when the Browns got rolling then boom sack or turnover flips the momentum. That is why stats like sacks and turnovers ARE important despite what some have articulated on the board.
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • steelsnis
                Starter
                • Dec 2008
                • 980

                #8
                Originally posted by Slapstick
                I was amazed by the play Heyward made, pancaking Cam Erving into the backfield at the snap and practically taking the handoff...making the TFL...
                Haha that was amazing. I made a Vine of it: [URL]https://vine.co/v/iBIFt6mWPvj[/URL]

                The best is Heyward's reaction after the play... "OH MY GOD"

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                • papillon
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 11340

                  #9
                  Giving up that many yards but few points is nice and all, but I don't believe that to be a recipe for success in the playoffs. The better teams in general will probably turn those yards into points, IMO. Some 3 and outs or 6 and outs would be nice rather than continuing to stay on the field for extended periods of time and giving up yards and potentially being gassed late in the game. It's worked for them so far so its hard to bellyache too much, of course, getting turnovers is helping a lot. You can't always count on good teams to turn the ball over.

                  Pappy
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                  The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                  1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                  3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                  3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                  4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                  5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                  7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                  "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                  • RobinCole
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1358

                    #10
                    I doubt Johnnyboy would have amassed that much yardage if the game had been closer. When you're ahead 21-3 and 24-3 you usually don't play the same kind of D that you would have if it were 6-3.

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                    • papillon
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11340

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RobinCole
                      I doubt Johnnyboy would have amassed that much yardage if the game had been closer. When you're ahead 21-3 and 24-3 you usually don't play the same kind of D that you would have if it were 6-3.
                      This is true and that probably did play a role in all the yards surrendered.

                      pappy
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                      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                      • Snatch98
                        Pro Bowler
                        • May 2008
                        • 1451

                        #12
                        Originally posted by papillon
                        Giving up that many yards but few points is nice and all, but I don't believe that to be a recipe for success in the playoffs. The better teams in general will probably turn those yards into points, IMO. Some 3 and outs or 6 and outs would be nice rather than continuing to stay on the field for extended periods of time and giving up yards and potentially being gassed late in the game. It's worked for them so far so its hard to bellyache too much, of course, getting turnovers is helping a lot. You can't always count on good teams to turn the ball over.

                        Pappy
                        Oir defense is forcing turnovers every week. Let's assume or hope that our offense stays healthy from here on out. Who is stopping our offense? And the defense has been very opportunistic. If our offense stays healthy I'm personally not worried about any team in the nfl, especially with all the turmoil. Edleman is done for a while, Manning is messed up. The colts are banged up. We should have beat the Bengals and I believe we will for round two. I'm trying to find the block in the road and all that I've been able to come up with is our own injuries. Team health is priority one. If we can stay healthy this team is making a deep run, our resilience has been fantastic.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27564

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Snatch98
                          Oir defense is forcing turnovers every week. Let's assume or hope that our offense stays healthy from here on out. Who is stopping our offense? And the defense has been very opportunistic. If our offense stays healthy I'm personally not worried about any team in the nfl, especially with all the turmoil. Edleman is done for a while, Manning is messed up. The colts are banged up. We should have beat the Bengals and I believe we will for round two. I'm trying to find the block in the road and all that I've been able to come up with is our own injuries. Team health is priority one. If we can stay healthy this team is making a deep run, our resilience has been fantastic.
                          the only one who can beat our offense is ourselves...
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bostonsteeler
                            Manziel had nearly 400 yards.

                            I'm an "every silver lining has a cloud" kinda guy..
                            Every silver lining's got a
                            Touch of grey
                            I will get by
                            I will get by
                            I will get by
                            I will survive
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #15
                              Assistant Munchak brings out best in Steelers offensive line

                              By Chris Adamski
                              Wednesday, Nov. 18, 2015, 10:27 p.m.
                              Updated 13 hours ago

                              With Dick LeBeau and his 5½ decades of NFL experience off to Tennessee earlier this year, there might not be a Steelers assistant coach more respected by his players than Mike Munchak.


                              “He's awesome,” guard David DeCastro said.


                              “He's done such a great job for us,” center Cody Wallace said.


                              “As O-linemen, we talk about Munchak all the time,” tackle Alejandro Villanueva said, “in terms of how fortunate we are to have a coach like him.”


                              There isn't a player Munchak coaches who was born prior to his run as a professional that began as a first-round pick of the Houston Oilers out of Penn State in 1982.


                              Twelve seasons as a Hall of Fame guard later, Munchak began a run of 20 years on the Oilers/Titans coaching staff. All but the final three (when he was head coach) directly involved coaching offensive linemen.


                              Now in his second season as the Steelers offensive line coach, Munchak has been in the NFL as part of the offensive line room for 34 consecutive years.


                              This season, for him, is like none of those before it — and not just because his unit has exceeded most expectations.


                              “I've had injuries, but never like this to who you usually say is your ‘two best guys,' ” Munchak said, referring to the critical positions of left tackle and center — spots where the Steelers lost Kelvin Beachum (for the season Oct. 1 and All-Pro Maurkice Pouncey (hasn't played since the preseason), respectively.

                              “I don't think people really appreciate it yet — I think it will be looked back upon with people like, ‘Man, those guys have done a solid job, considering what jobs other teams have done with backups,' ” guard Ramon Foster said.


                              Villanueva and Wallace deserve credit for being the individuals who stepped in for Pouncey (four-time Pro Bowler) and Beachum (ranked as the NFL's fifth-best left tackle last season by Pro Football Focus).


                              But ask Wallace and Villanueva, and they deflect credit to Munchak.


                              Especially Villanueva, who arrived in Pittsburgh last August as a practice-squad defensive lineman who was five years removed from a college career at Army in which he was the Cadets' top wide receiver as a senior.


                              “I don't think if I had tried to play O-line on another team I would have been able to do what I'm doing right now,” Villanueva said. “With another coach, I truly don't think I could have played at this level.

                              “So I owe (Munchak) a lot, and I think a lot of the guys in the room owe him a lot as well.”


                              DeCastro also describes Munchak as warm, cerebral and hard-working.


                              “He's not a yeller. He's not going to cuss you out,” DeCastro said. “He makes the game fun.”


                              “The one thing I admire most is how much work he puts in every single day,” Villanueva said. “It doesn't matter how early in the morning or how late you leave, he's always (working).”


                              Villanueva's unlikely rapid ascension into a starting NFL left tackle in 14 months might represent a defining signature for Munchak's coaching resume. But Munchak prefers to point out the contributions of Foster (who lines up next to Villanueva) and, of course, Villanueva himself.


                              “Al doesn't want to let anyone down,” Munchak said. “He wants to be the best he can be. That's how he is wired; that's in his DNA.”


                              Villanueva, like his linemates, have plenty to be proud of. Despite myriad injures on the line as well as at skill positions, the Steelers rank sixth in the NFL in total offense. They rank seventh in rushing yards per game and lead the league in yards per carry.


                              With a backup running back and two backup linemen.


                              “Coach Munch is one of those guys you don't want to disappoint and you don't want to let down,” DeCastro said.


                              [URL]http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/9466296-74/munchak-villanueva-coach#axzz3rvlwyw1B[/URL]
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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