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  • Sword
    Pro Bowler
    • Sep 2011
    • 2048

    How do we beat Arizona?

    My 2 cents....

    Don't play conservative even with Vick, tell Vick to not try and win game himself, give to players to make plays.
    Use miller more Across the middle.
    Be ready for Arizona head coach to call trick plays!!!
    Maybe we should have a trick play up our sleeve for this game?
    Be ready to get rid of the ball quick they will be rushing Vick often...
    Don't keep trying to run the ball if we are getting stopped...throw the dam ball...
    Our Defense needs to get pressure on the QB ..hit him early and often to throw him off his game...
  • SidSmythe
    Hall of Famer
    • Sep 2008
    • 4708

    #2
    I say we score more points than they do!!
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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    • MCHammer
      Starter
      • Aug 2010
      • 574

      #3
      Originally posted by Sword
      Maybe we should have a trick play up our sleeve for this game?
      Don't worry. I'm pretty sure Haley will have blown his trick play wad by the end of Steeler's first possession per usual.

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      • fezziwig
        Hall of Famer
        • Jan 2009
        • 3515

        #4
        Bull rush Palmer and smack him around a few times. He will get rattled.

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          We need to protect the ball (Arizona has a league leading 11 INTs and their DBs won't drop gift pick sixes like the Charger DBs did...take some shots deep to Brown, Bryant, DHB, and Wheaton because getting deep balls picked is essentially the same as punting, but limit the risk quick out patterns that Vick sucks at) and not allow their wideout Fitz, Brown, and Floyd to go buck wild against our secondary (of course, the best way to do this is to sack Palmer, who is probably about as mobile as Ben is with his knee brace now, which is kinda funny since Ben played the Carson role for the scout team in 7-on-7 drills in practice this week).
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Cinnjerm3000
            Backup
            • Sep 2014
            • 270

            #6
            Originally posted by Sword
            My 2 cents....

            Don't play conservative even with Vick, tell Vick to not try and win game himself, give to players to make plays.
            Use miller more Across the middle.
            Be ready for Arizona head coach to call trick plays!!!
            Maybe we should have a trick play up our sleeve for this game?
            Be ready to get rid of the ball quick they will be rushing Vick often...
            Don't keep trying to run the ball if we are getting stopped...throw the dam ball...
            Our Defense needs to get pressure on the QB ..hit him early and often to throw him off his game...
            Everything you said, plus I'd add meaningful contributions from special teams (IE good field position, possibly a kickoff returned for a TD, and no missed FGs) and a defensive score if we can stand to muster one.

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            • Cinnjerm3000
              Backup
              • Sep 2014
              • 270

              #7
              Oh, and as far as the trick play is concerned, I've been reading reports this morning of a trick play they practiced yesterday [successfully] that involved a deep pass from Brown to Vick. Would be interesting to see presuming it was successful.

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              • MCHammer
                Starter
                • Aug 2010
                • 574

                #8
                Originally posted by Cinnjerm3000
                Oh, and as far as the trick play is concerned, I've been reading reports this morning of a trick play they practiced yesterday [successfully] that involved a deep pass from Brown to Vick. Would be interesting to see presuming it was successful.
                Yeah, that sounds about right. What would be even better would be to work in a reverse so that it's super obvious, slow moving and Antonio gets at least 10 yards deep before setting up to throw. If at all possible, also call the play while in the midst of a methodical drive that the Cardinals can't seem to stop.

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                • Cinnjerm3000
                  Backup
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 270

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MCHammer
                  Yeah, that sounds about right. What would be even better would be to work in a reverse so that it's super obvious, slow moving and Antonio gets at least 10 yards deep before setting up to throw. If at all possible, also call the play while in the midst of a methodical drive that the Cardinals can't seem to stop.
                  LOL, hey...don't shoot the messenger.

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                  • bostonsteeler
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1529

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SidSmythe
                    I say we score more points than they do!!

                    That's a good strategy.

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                    • Iron City Inc.
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 3237

                      #11
                      One aspect Vick will need to be better at is when there are 9 in the box with twins high you have to check out of the run play. We saw that way to often on Monday night. Bell is terrific but that's not taking what they are giving you. He'll need to do a better job making adjustments at the los against Arizona.
                      If we can be a plus 1 in the turnover game we have a good shot.
                      Boswell was better then expected. For a change our kicking game was a plus. That will need to be solid again against Arizona.

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                      • Captain Lemming
                        Legend
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 16041

                        #12
                        Originally posted by fezziwig
                        Bull rush Palmer and smack him around a few times. He will get rattled.
                        Have Tuit wear a Kimo V mask perhaps?
                        (that was wrong, oh so wrong)
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                        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                        TCFCLTC-
                        The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                        • Steelhere10
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3849

                          #13
                          I'm not sold on Arizona, this game will be closer than most think.
                          17- 14 . I don't know who wins though.
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                          • The Man of Steel
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 2236

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            Have Tuit wear a Kimo V mask perhaps?
                            (that was wrong, oh so wrong)
                            I was thinking the same thing. Taking out Carson Palmer's knee within the first 5 minutes of the game has a proven track record of increasing the odds of a Steelers victory.
                            Obviously the standard is the standard.

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                            • Shoe
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 4044

                              #15
                              As a betting man, I must say that I would bet ARI if I were just being objective. They seem like "that team" this year, as they've blown the doors off a couple teams already. The only way we win this game, is if Vick somehow turns back the clock to 2010 or so. He doesn't even have to do that; he just has to be able to sustain offense. Don't get blinded by his sun-shining-on-dog's-ass (pun unintended), last couple minutes of performance... he had an awful game. And he wore our defense down.

                              Vick needs to use his legs a lot. Run some zone-read, some bootlegs, designed QB runs... yes, I know he's old now and can't take the pounding. These plays need to be managed properly. And I don't want him to be reckless. But he should be much more opportunistic as a runner, taking what he can and getting down (e.g. Russell Wilson).
                              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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