This team has no chance without Ben

[WindyCitySteel]

He made those calls because his kicker was unreliable. If he had a reliable kicker and made those decisions, then you may have a point about systemic problems...

Didn't have to put those calls on Vick, though. Four 3rd and 4th and shorts, Bell never touched it.

[WindyCitySteel]

This team basically has one shot to be a contender - Ben has to return sooner than expected and take over the playcalling. If he's out six games, the hole will be too deep. No matter when he returns, if Haley and Dumblin call the plays, there will be more coaching losses. There are every year.

[feltdizz]

Most teams have no chance without their franchise QB.

[Slapstick]

Didn't have to put those calls on Vick, though. Four 3rd and 4th and shorts, Bell never touched it.

That is "systemic"?

[SteelerOfDeVille]

I'd take that all day, but last night was the easiest of the games Ben will miss. We're the only team who could lose a home Thursday nighter with a 13-point 2nd half lead.

@SD, Arizona, @KC, Cincy.

You see three wins there?

SD, KC, Cincy... calling my shot

[fezziwig]

The defense was good with the qb pressure but holy cow !
When are they going to learn to tackle or stop the run ?

[SteelerOfDeVille]

The defense was good with the qb pressure but holy cow !
When are they going to learn to tackle or stop the run ?

wonder if big snack is busy these days

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Didn't have to put those calls on Vick, though. Four 3rd and 4th and shorts, Bell never touched it.

Or maybe even DeAngelo on at least one of them. It's not like they didn't have options.

[7upnext]

Most teams have no chance without their franchise QB.

absolutely. But well coached good teams can withstand a 4 game stretch missing your QB. Are we well coached? Are we good enough?

[Slapstick]

If we have a kicker, we're good enough and coached well enough.

[BURGH86STEEL]

absolutely. But well coached good teams can withstand a 4 game stretch missing your QB. Are we well coached? Are we good enough?

The team is well coached. It appears the team has good enough players to compete.

The real question is will the players execute well enough to win games? The players failed to execute on the opportunities they had vs the Ravens.