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  • K Train
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2014
    • 3685

    #16
    Originally posted by Oviedo
    Thank you. Good info. Would you consider Owa Odi as more of a sure thing? He seems perfect fit for the "elephant"
    Probably safer...lower ceiling, higher floor.

    Odighizuwa is so unique in that he can play 34 OLB and beat the **** out of a TE if his side is strong, or he could blow through or past an OT is his side is weak. He could play DE in a 43, and he can play DE in a 34.

    People who say he cant rush the passer are wrong, but he was (mostly) playing a 34 DE at UCLA...highly unique given his size but his strength and ability to play low with great leverage is what made it work there. He is such a violent player and while he mostly played 5 tech (which accounts for low sack numbers) he did play 7 tech in a 4 man front and he played the justin tuck (giants) role on the inside of the dline as well, and stood up and played some OLB (they run a very inconsistent scheme)

    Dont want him wandering around in space too much, but you do send him after the QB with confidence. Hes very explosive even if he doesnt look it all the time (hes so big he can look a bit slower tha he really is)

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    • Shawn
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #17
      OO...just smells like a Raven. I assume we will pass on OO for a soft fast player.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • K Train
        Hall of Famer
        • Jan 2014
        • 3685

        #18
        Originally posted by Shawn
        OO...just smells like a Raven. I assume we will pass on OO for a soft fast player.
        lol what soft player have they taken over a super tough one?

        Odighiziwa or Peters on the ravens would devastate me

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        • Snatch98
          Pro Bowler
          • May 2008
          • 1451

          #19
          Originally posted by Slapstick
          Has Jones been playing for three years already? It barely seems like two...
          Lost his sophmore season to injury. Heading into year three now. I don't understand why people make comments like that about Jones. We havent been "waiting" for him to do anything but have a healthy season. People act like the guy is stunted for some other reason than being injured and being a rookie.

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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #20
            Originally posted by K Train
            lol what soft player have they taken over a super tough one?

            Odighiziwa or Peters on the ravens would devastate me
            Shazier over Mosley.
            Trolls are people too.

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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #21
              Originally posted by Snatch98
              Lost his sophmore season to injury. Heading into year three now. I don't understand why people make comments like that about Jones. We havent been "waiting" for him to do anything but have a healthy season. People act like the guy is stunted for some other reason than being injured and being a rookie.
              Exactly, the arrow is pointing up...I seen the flashes I wanted to see. I suspect he really steps up in a big way this season.
              Trolls are people too.

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #22
                Originally posted by K Train
                lol what soft player have they taken over a super tough one?

                Odighiziwa or Peters on the ravens would devastate me

                Agree 100%. OO to the Ravens would make me sick. Especially if we passed on him for a project pick.
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  Shazier over Mosley.

                  He said "soft" player. Shazier may be fast, but that doesn't make him soft.
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • Shawn
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15131

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    He said "soft" player. Shazier may be fast, but that doesn't make him soft.
                    No but being unable to sort through trash or lock horns with OLmen does.
                    Trolls are people too.

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                    • Snatch98
                      Pro Bowler
                      • May 2008
                      • 1451

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Shawn
                      No but being unable to sort through trash or lock horns with OLmen does.
                      Before he got hurt he certainly had no trouble racking up the tackles. You can't teach speed.

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                      • K Train
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 3685

                        #26
                        Mosely was the one with the injury concerns coming out....and he doesnt "lock horns" hes good in traffic.

                        Did you see Mosely "lock horns" with pouncey this year? No you did not, he was put on the ground and treated badly
                        Last edited by K Train; 04-23-2015, 03:26 PM.

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                        • Shoe
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 4044

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Coolie Man
                          I think Dupree is vastly over rated. I hope we don't pick him. Looks awkward rushing the passer. Stiff.
                          Dupree is a bust waiting to happen. I think the leading (reasonable) contender is Kevin Johnson.
                          I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                          • papillon
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 11340

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Shawn
                            No but being unable to sort through trash or lock horns with OLmen does.
                            Not really, it just means he has to find a different way to get it done on the field. I don't think Shazier is soft at all, he is willing to put a lick on you. I think he understands what he does best and what he doesn't do well and works around those parameters. I believe he will be the leader of this defense or one of the leaders of this defense in the future.

                            Pappy
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                            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                            "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                            • phillyesq
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 7568

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Shoe
                              Dupree is a bust waiting to happen. I think the leading (reasonable) contender is Kevin Johnson.
                              I'm not feeling Kevin Johnson. I'd rather take a shot on Dupree, who is admittedly a boom or bust guy, than take Kevin Johnson, who still has bust potential but with a lower ceiling.

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                              • K Train
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 3685

                                #30
                                Kevin Johnson has played well his whole career and his agility is insanely good which is excellent to translate to CB...but until i see a wake forest player pan out this decade I remain cautious.

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