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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
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    5 Edge Rushers the Steelers Must Consider

    5 Edge Rushers the Steelers Must Consider in the 2015 NFL Draft

    By Curt Popejoy , Featured Columnist Feb 10, 2015



    You don’t have to work in the Pittsburgh Steelers front office to recognize that Pittsburgh needs to address the defense early in the 2015 NFL draft. There are multiple spots on the defensive side of the football Pittsburgh will be choosing from. And the top of that list, written in pen, is a pass-rushing outside linebacker.

    Pittsburgh’s situation at outside linebacker is dire. The only returning player with any significant reps is Jarvis Jones. That’s not saying a whole lot as Jones has struggled mightily in his first two seasons. The Steelers running a base 3-4 need hybrid defensive end/linebackers on the roster that can play multiple roles on defense.

    So let’s take a closer look at some guys who will be vying for that spot opposite Jones. This list isn’t comprehensive but more of a look at the five most interesting players at the position, and it just so happens all could be great as Steelers. Understand that not all of these players were college linebackers. In fact in many cases, college defensive ends are converted over, and make exceptional 3-4 outside linebackers.

    The draw of Kentucky’s Alvin Dupree is his combination of size and athleticism. Dupree checks in at a lean and fit 6’4” and 264 pounds. Dupree has been one of the most productive edge players in the country during his time at Kentucky. Dupree amassed 24 sacks during his college career. Just as important are the 247 tackles Dupree accumulated during that same stretch.

    Dupree’s game is predicated on his outstanding length, exceptional anticipation and incredible agility. Dupree shows the most diverse package of pass-rush moves of any edge player in this draft. Trying to scheme Dupree out of a game is nearly impossible because he is able to attack an offensive lineman in multiple ways.

    In particular, Dupree’s rip to the inside is devastating because it forces the offensive lineman to shade inside, and that makes his outside rush even more effective.

    Dupree’s ability to work with his hand on the ground and be so explosive at 264 pounds makes him a perfect fit for the Steelers. Pittsburgh needs bigger, stronger outside linebackers that can stay on the field more. In 2014, when the Steelers trotted up undersized outside linebackers, teams just ran right at them. Dupree isn’t an ideal run defender but has adequate power and exceptional play recognition.

    It might be bit generous to include Florida linebacker Dante Fowler Jr. on this list. By the time the draft actually gets here, Fowler should have cemented his spot among the very top players in this draft. But that’s not to say a team can’t dream?

    If you are one to scout the box scores, you might not be super excited about what Fowler brings to the table. However, when you put on the tape you see a player who was seemingly everywhere at the same time.

    Fowler’s length is one of his greatest tools. You pair up that length with his ability to drop his shoulder and turn the corner and you understand why his high draft stock is cemented. Fowler's weight has gone up and down over the course of his career; everywhere from 255 pounds to 277 pounds. The down side to this is that Fowler played all over the defensive line in college but never settled long enough to really amass some stats.

    From a technical standpoint, Fowler is similar to Dupree in that he can come off the edge and rip inside at the snap. What makes Fowler a better prospect is that he has an excellent bull rush and much better functional strength. Fowler has tremendous range on the field which benefits him greatly if he goes to a 3-4 defense where he’s asked to drop into coverage.

    If you haven’t heard of Virginia’s Eli Harold yet, just hold on a minute and you will. Harold is a long, low-body fat athlete with exceptional athleticism. Harold’s strength is in his burst. Harold fires off the line with explosion, and then finds another gear once he’s at the edge to chase down the quarterback.

    Harold is similar to these other edge players in that when he wins off the snap he is great, however, at only 250 pounds, he will struggle when offensive linemen get their hands on him. Harold’s ability to disengage is perhaps his greatest flaw. That and the fact that his lower body is narrow and he might not have the frame to carry much more weight.

    Nevertheless, you line Harold up on the left where he can use his burst to beat plodding right tackles and he’ll feast. Harold’s ability to change direction quickly and get up to speed in a hurry makes him an excellent candidate as an inside blitzer.

    Of all the players on this list, none of them are the boom/bust prospect that Clemson’s Vic Beasley is. Over the course of the past three seasons, Beasley has been one of the most productive pass-rushers in the country. Beasley has 32 sacks during that time and, based on my film study, just as many quarterback hits and hurries.

    For as good as the other players are on this list at anticipating the snap count, and exploding off the ball, none can compete with Beasley. In fact, Beasley’s edge rush is so effective, he’s never really had to develop any secondary pass-rush moves. So, why isn’t Beasley a lock to be a top-10 pick?

    Part of that centers around size. Beasley is listed at 6’3” and 235 pounds, but at times he appears much lighter. The Steelers can find a spot for an edge-bender like Beasley at 235 pounds. However, with his build, Beasley can’t carry more weight.

    Which means if he only weighs in at 225 pounds, teams will be gun shy about committing a top pick on him. However, after watching what guys like the Seattle Seahawks' Bruce Irvin and the Denver Broncos' Von Miller have done, there’s no doubt Beasley can do it as well.

    The final name on this list is UCLA defensive end Owamagbe Odighizuwa. Where many of these players are hybrid types to spend time with their hand on the ground and others standing up. Odighizuwa is much more of a pure defensive end.

    This means he wouldn’t fit with what the Steelers want to do, right? Wrong, new defensive coordinator Keith Butler is going to bring more 4-man fronts, in reaction to the amount of nickel NFL offenses require. Historically, when a team used a lot of multiple wide receiver sets it forced the Steelers into less-than favorable sub packages.

    However, at a rock solid 270 pounds, Odighizuwa looks carved out of granite. Odighizuwa is powerful at setting the edge. Of all the players on this list, Odighizuwa is the one least likely to give up a play in the run game. What Odighizuwa lacks in pure pass-rush skills, he more than makes up for with violent hands and tremendous power. Even though Odighizuwa won’t win any sprints, and doesn’t have the balance to really turn the corner, his relentless effort more than makes up for it.

    Odighizuwa makes this list over a guy like Utah’s Nate Orchard because of all the players on this list, Odighizuwa is not only the best run defender of all of them, he also represents the greatest value. There is nothing lacking in Odighizuwa’s game that cannot be coached up, so while he may not be ready to rush full time as a rookie, it certainly could happen.

    [URL]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2359851-5-outside-linebackers-the-steelers-must-consider-in-the-2015-nfl-draft[/URL]
  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
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    #2
    Bob Sturm’s 2015 NFL Draft profile: What I see in Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE, UCLA

    by Bob Sturm
    Published: February 10, 2015



    I have never been a scout or a NFL General Manager, but I am willing to watch a ton of football. By watching about 200 snaps of each prospect, we can really get a feel for a player and then know what we are talking about a bit better. It is no exact science, but the NFL hasn’t quite figured out drafting either, so we are going to do the best we can.

    Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE, UCLA – 6’3, 266 – RS Senior

    Today’s study is one of the more difficult names to master, but Odighizuwa could also be one of the better defensive ends in the entire mix. He is a bit older than your average draft prospect as he will hit his 23rd birthday the month of the draft. He was born in Ohio, raised in Nigeria, and a 5-Star recruit out of high school that suggested his greatness was inevitable in 2010. Since then, he has missed an entire season with 2 hip surgeries and now is trying to prove he is worth the potential health red flag. To study his work, we took a good look at the UCLA games against Texas, Virginia, USC, and Kansas State.



    What I liked:
    When watching this player do his work, you can see there is a lot to like. He appears to be very versatile in many regards with his ability to do things that help you up front. First, he rushes from that RDE spot and can get some things done there with his array of moves. He can turn the corner reasonably well and is helped by his relentless battle. Then, you can line him up at the strong-side (LDE) where his ability to deal with the run is put on full display and that might be where he is really better than his size would indicate. He squares to the line and then can shoot gaps and anticipate the snap with speedy “get-off” and demonstrate some great athleticism. Additionally, he is moved inside on pass rush downs and can get isolated with a guard and push the pocket up. He has really long arms and uses them well with a push/pull technique that is too much for many of the college linemen he faced. His motor and his dimensions both really work in his favor.

    What I did not like: When you see a player who missed an entire year with hip issues in college, that surely gives you pause. There is no question that the version of Odighizuwa in September and the same player in November were two different players, so his recovery might mean that he is available a bit deeper in the draft if all things were equal health-wise. He also doesn’t show the bend to turn the corner that someone like DeMarcus Ware had. This means that his angles to the Quarterback are not as sharp, meaning he cannot get there as quickly. This is not a major issue, just an admission that he might not have as high a ceiling as those above him, but still very solid.

    Summary: Overall, I really like this player for the Cowboys in the late 1st or 2nd. He is perfect for their scheme and he possesses the tools that Rod Marinelli values with a high motor and a relentless battle level. He seems like the type of young piece that you could add to Tyrone Crawford and DeMarcus Lawrence and feel pretty solid about, provided he passes all of his medical exams to make sure the hip is not the sort of thing that is recurring. His production has not been quite as high as I might like at UCLA (6 sacks, 11.5 tackles for loss in 2014), but keep in mind that he really was working his way back and had a quiet first month. After that, his production was pretty solid for the remainder of the year. You don’t always find defensive ends who appear to have better than average ability at pass rushing and run stopping, but I think Odighizuwa can be that type of guy. He appears to be a piece that Marinelli could really mold into another edge rush option that could offer reasonably-priced sacks for years to come.


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    Last edited by hawaiiansteel; 02-10-2015, 08:33 PM.

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    • Oviedo
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      • May 2008
      • 23771

      #3
      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
      Bob Sturm’s 2015 NFL Draft profile: What I see in Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE, UCLA

      by Bob Sturm
      Published: February 10, 2015



      I have never been a scout or a NFL General Manager, but I am willing to watch a ton of football. By watching about 200 snaps of each prospect, we can really get a feel for a player and then know what we are talking about a bit better. It is no exact science, but the NFL hasn’t quite figured out drafting either, so we are going to do the best we can.

      Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE, UCLA – 6’3, 266 – RS Senior

      Today’s study is one of the more difficult names to master, but Odighizuwa could also be one of the better defensive ends in the entire mix. He is a bit older than your average draft prospect as he will hit his 23rd birthday the month of the draft. He was born in Ohio, raised in Nigeria, and a 5-Star recruit out of high school that suggested his greatness was inevitable in 2010. Since then, he has missed an entire season with 2 hip surgeries and now is trying to prove he is worth the potential health red flag. To study his work, we took a good look at the UCLA games against Texas, Virginia, USC, and Kansas State.



      What I liked:
      When watching this player do his work, you can see there is a lot to like. He appears to be very versatile in many regards with his ability to do things that help you up front. First, he rushes from that RDE spot and can get some things done there with his array of moves. He can turn the corner reasonably well and is helped by his relentless battle. Then, you can line him up at the strong-side (LDE) where his ability to deal with the run is put on full display and that might be where he is really better than his size would indicate. He squares to the line and then can shoot gaps and anticipate the snap with speedy “get-off” and demonstrate some great athleticism. Additionally, he is moved inside on pass rush downs and can get isolated with a guard and push the pocket up. He has really long arms and uses them well with a push/pull technique that is too much for many of the college linemen he faced. His motor and his dimensions both really work in his favor.

      What I did not like: When you see a player who missed an entire year with hip issues in college, that surely gives you pause. There is no question that the version of Odighizuwa in September and the same player in November were two different players, so his recovery might mean that he is available a bit deeper in the draft if all things were equal health-wise. He also doesn’t show the bend to turn the corner that someone like DeMarcus Ware had. This means that his angles to the Quarterback are not as sharp, meaning he cannot get there as quickly. This is not a major issue, just an admission that he might not have as high a ceiling as those above him, but still very solid.

      Summary: Overall, I really like this player for the Cowboys in the late 1st or 2nd. He is perfect for their scheme and he possesses the tools that Rod Marinelli values with a high motor and a relentless battle level. He seems like the type of young piece that you could add to Tyrone Crawford and DeMarcus Lawrence and feel pretty solid about, provided he passes all of his medical exams to make sure the hip is not the sort of thing that is recurring. His production has not been quite as high as I might like at UCLA (6 sacks, 11.5 tackles for loss in 2014), but keep in mind that he really was working his way back and had a quiet first month. After that, his production was pretty solid for the remainder of the year. You don’t always find defensive ends who appear to have better than average ability at pass rushing and run stopping, but I think Odighizuwa can be that type of guy. He appears to be a piece that Marinelli could really mold into another edge rush option that could offer reasonably-priced sacks for years to come.


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      Steelers tended to go younger rather than older with their Round 1 picks so as a RS Senior does that drop OO out?
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • RuthlessBurgher
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        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #4
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Steelers tended to go younger rather than older with their Round 1 picks so as a RS Senior does that drop OO out?
        He wouldn't be a consideration at #22. In terms of outside pass rushers, they would look at Dupree or Beasley there (assuming, of course, that Gregory, Ray, and Fowler are long gone), but Odighizuwa would be a consideration in round 2 if we go elsewhere in the first and he were to fall to #56 (along with Eli Harold and Nate Orchard).
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 3937

          #5
          This is my assessment of the 1st pass rushers as it relates to the Steelers. Lets eliminate Gregory & Ray because the are Top 10 guys more than likely. I have watched lots of "tape" on these guys over the last 3 weeks. Out of Fowler, Beasley, & Dupree...Dupree fits best at LOLB. I believe his game translates quickest as a Steelers LOLB in a 3-4. I think Fowlers ceiling may be alittle higher & he may be long gone because of that. However...I like Dupree more standing up & at the POA. Beasley is a boom or bust pick for the Steelers. I think Beasley has the best first step of the three. I think he may be only a ROLB in the Steelers defense. I don't think he can get on the field at LOLB in his first year. He can push JJ but just like JJ...He may only fit on the right side & the investment is already made in JJ.

          Saying that...If Beasley is there at #22 & he is BPA...I'm ok with the pick. Right now it looks like Fowler is ahead of both...Dupree & Beasley are close. I think scheme will determine who goes first between Dupree & Beasley. They are the only 5 I would consider in the 1st at #22. Gregory, Ray, & Fowler look like they will be gone by 13 so we will see if Dupree gets to the Steelers. Funny thing here...I see Dupree as a "quick twitch" version of Jason Gildon & Beasley as a less physical version of Lloyd...Minus the attitude! lol

          I have been on Eli Harold early but he isn't a 1st rounder to me. His combine could vault him there in many eyes. Would have liked to see another year of production if he stayed. Young..Raw & needs to develop a pass rush skill set. He's using his length & athleticism to win right now. I think his path to starting will be very similar to Worilds. I don't see him as a plug & play in the Steelers system so I'm not putting him in 1st round. Some other team might value him more based on system & see him as a 1st rounder.

          Steelers NEED at LOLB could change to WANT if Worilds doesn't go anywhere. It is a deep class at pass rusher so the Steelers will dip in the first four rounds regardless of FA imo. If Worilds leaves...I think the Steelers make a great effort in bringing in a FA. Heres the thing....I don't see them spending more on the FA than the offer they gave Worilds. So can they land a Morgan-Graham-Sheard-McPhee type before the draft? That will be difficult because that's where the money is thrown around. They may spend a little more than the Steelers fans want to make sure there isn't a NEED...Just a WANT. Get ready to Bitch! lol Still allot of questions unanswered with JJ so the Steelers are in need of 2 starting caliber OLBs. The Steelers still have the same people in place so we know how they operate. I find it hard to believe the Steelers will go into this draft with any NEEDS. They will have Worilds or "Enter FA name here" signed before the draft. If an OLB is BPA at 22 they will take him. Rubbing the crystal ball...JJ pans out & the Steelers will be faced with the troublesome task....sarcasm...Of finding a way to get 3 pass rushers on the field at the same time in the rejuvenated Blitzburgh Defense.

          On a side note to all of this. Here's a name I want you guys to watch through this process. We don't have access to meetings & private workouts but I'm very interested to see how things unfold. If this guy is there at 22 & the Steelers feel they found his position...Is Shaq Thompson the darkhorse target for the Steelers to play SS? You have to question is Shark going to see the field as a starter at SS? He couldn't stay healthy & when healthy couldn't overtake W Allen when Troy was down. We all would hope he is the guy because of the investment. It "smells" like Bob Sanders early in his career...God I hope not! Thompson is just a playmaker wherever he plays. He played LB & played allot at S especially the Stanford game. He was a two way player at RB too. He is very "TROYish". Making a full conversion to S would be transitioned well with the help of another guy who did it in Carnel Lake. He may struggle at WIL LB in a 4-3 because he does struggle at disengaging. He will have to play behind an elite DL early in a 4-3 until he gets stronger but SS similar to Troy's role EARLY n his career may be his best fit. He's a playmaking FB player...The Steelers need some of them on defense!
          Last edited by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY; 02-11-2015, 12:07 PM.

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          • RuthlessBurgher
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            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            For what it's worth, he is how I see the top 10 going down at this point (with three 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB pass rushers coming off the board very early):

            1. TB needs a QB. Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota

            2. TEN also needs a QB. Whichever one of Winston or Mariota TB doesn't take.

            3. JAX has drafted offensive heavy of late (Blake Bortles, Marquis Lee, Allen Robinson, Luke Joeckel, etc.), so defensive-oriented coach goes with the best defensive player on the board. Leonard Williams.

            4. OAK signed a bunch of old guys to play defense last offseason. An elite young pass rusher to team up with Khalil Mack? Yes, please. Randy Gregory or Shane Ray.

            5. WAS still has Ryan Kerrigan, but will likely allow the injury prone Brian Orakpo to leave via free agency. Whichever one of Gregory or Ray OAK doesn't take.

            6. NYJ needs a legit #1 WR because Eric Decker is a solid #2 but not a #1. Amari Cooper.

            7. CHI is transitioning to a 3-4 D. An elite level NT is very hard to find, but one happens to be here. Danny Shelton.

            8. ATL just hired a defensive minded head coach because their defense was flat out awful. It all starts with a pass rush. Dante Fowler.

            9. NYG could use an upgrade a tackle over Will Beatty. Imagine if Eli has time to throw deep balls to Odell Beckham and Victor Cruz. Andrus Peat or Brandon Scherff.

            10. STL just drafted Greg Robinson last year, but there are still questions about their other tackle spot since Jake Long is older and seemingly always hurt, Rodger Saffold was moved inside to guard, and Joseph Barksdale is a free agent. Whichever one of Peat or Scherff NYG doesn't take.
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • Oviedo
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              • May 2008
              • 23771

              #7
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              8. ATL just hired a defensive minded head coach because their defense was flat out awful. It all starts with a pass rush. Dante Fowler.
              Quinn in a 4-3 guy...does Fowler project into the 4-3?
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • Slapstick
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                • May 2008
                • 0

                #8
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                Quinn in a 4-3 guy...does Fowler project into the 4-3?
                The type of 4-3 Quinn runs? Sure! Why not?
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • RuthlessBurgher
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                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  Quinn in a 4-3 guy...does Fowler project into the 4-3?
                  Quinn's primary pass rushers for the last couple of seasons have been Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett, and Bruce Irvin.

                  Dante Fowler is listed as 6'3" 260 lbs.

                  Cliff Avril is also listed as 6'3" 260 lbs.

                  Michael Bennett is a bit more stout (6'3" 274 lbs.)

                  Bruce Irvin is a bit more slender (6'3" 245 lbs.)

                  I'd say he would fit in Quinn's system.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35303

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    The type of 4-3 Quinn runs? Sure! Why not?
                    and don't forget that Dante Fowler was recruited to the Florida Gators by Dan Quinn who was their DC at the time...

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                    • papillon
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11337

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      For what it's worth, he is how I see the top 10 going down at this point (with three 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB pass rushers coming off the board very early):

                      1. TB needs a QB. Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota

                      2. TEN also needs a QB. Whichever one of Winston or Mariota TB doesn't take.

                      3. JAX has drafted offensive heavy of late (Blake Bortles, Marquis Lee, Allen Robinson, Luke Joeckel, etc.), so defensive-oriented coach goes with the best defensive player on the board. Leonard Williams.

                      4. OAK signed a bunch of old guys to play defense last offseason. An elite young pass rusher to team up with Khalil Mack? Yes, please. Randy Gregory or Shane Ray.

                      5. WAS still has Ryan Kerrigan, but will likely allow the injury prone Brian Orakpo to leave via free agency. Whichever one of Gregory or Ray OAK doesn't take.

                      6. NYJ needs a legit #1 WR because Eric Decker is a solid #2 but not a #1. Amari Cooper.

                      7. CHI is transitioning to a 3-4 D. An elite level NT is very hard to find, but one happens to be here. Danny Shelton.

                      8. ATL just hired a defensive minded head coach because their defense was flat out awful. It all starts with a pass rush. Dante Fowler.

                      9. NYG could use an upgrade a tackle over Will Beatty. Imagine if Eli has time to throw deep balls to Odell Beckham and Victor Cruz. Andrus Peat or Brandon Scherff.

                      10. STL just drafted Greg Robinson last year, but there are still questions about their other tackle spot since Jake Long is older and seemingly always hurt, Rodger Saffold was moved inside to guard, and Joseph Barksdale is a free agent. Whichever one of Peat or Scherff NYG doesn't take.
                      Chicago is not transitioning to the 34 its outdated and isn't fooling anyone any longer, so there aren't any players in college that can convert to the 34. All of the current 34 teams are transitioning to the vanilla defense run by the Seahawks because those players are a dime a dozen and can be had in rounds 4-7.

                      Pappy
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                      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                      • ikestops85
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 3724

                        #12
                        Originally posted by papillon
                        Chicago is not transitioning to the 34 its outdated and isn't fooling anyone any longer, so there aren't any players in college that can convert to the 34. All of the current 34 teams are transitioning to the vanilla defense run by the Seahawks because those players are a dime a dozen and can be had in rounds 4-7.

                        Pappy
                        As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                        but Go Steelers!!!

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                        • hawaiiansteel
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                          • May 2008
                          • 35303

                          #13
                          NFL Mock Draft 2015: Mel Kiper's 2.0 mock is out

                          By Jason Marcum on Feb 11, 2015

                          ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. has released his latest mock draft as the NFL offseason continues.

                          He has the Cincinnati Bengals going with defensive end Vic Beasley at pick No. 21. His previous mock tabbed Kentucky's Bud Dupree to the Bengals with their first pick, so he's kept the pass-rusher theme this time around.

                          The Clemson defensive end is starting to become a common pick for Cincinnati in mock drafts, and why not? He immediately makes the pas rush better after racking up 32 sacks over his last 32 college games. The Bengals had a tough time getting to the quarterback this past season, and adding a guy like Beasley or Dupree would immediately upgrade the pass rush.

                          Here's Kiper's writeup of Beasley:

                          The Bengals had arguably the worst pass rush in the NFL last season, so if a player like Beasley is available here -- whether you think he's capable of playing as a 4-3 DE or better standing up as a 3-4 OLB -- he's potentially a great get. All he's done for the last two seasons at Clemson is disrupt offenses with his quickness, ability to remove the hands of blockers and bend off the edge and relentless energy in pursuit that always makes him a threat even to mobile quarterbacks who like to work outside the pocket.

                          [URL]http://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/2/11/8018277/nfl-mock-draft-2015-mel-kipers-2-0-mock[/URL]

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                          • hawaiiansteel
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                            • May 2008
                            • 35303

                            #14
                            Mike Mayock's position rankings for 2015 NFL Draft

                            By Mike Mayock
                            NFL Media draft analyst
                            Published: Feb. 11, 2015

                            With the NFL Scouting Combine beginning on Feb. 17, Mike Mayock unveils the first of his position-by-position rankings for the 2015 NFL Draft.

                            Edge rusher

                            1. Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida
                            2. Randy Gregory, Nebraska
                            3. Shane Ray, Missouri
                            4. Vic Beasley, Clemson
                            5. Bud Dupree, Kentucky

                            [URL]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000470108/article/mike-mayocks-position-rankings-for-2015-nfl-draft[/URL]

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
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                              • May 2008
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              Mike Mayock's position rankings for 2015 NFL Draft

                              By Mike Mayock
                              NFL Media draft analyst
                              Published: Feb. 11, 2015

                              With the NFL Scouting Combine beginning on Feb. 17, Mike Mayock unveils the first of his position-by-position rankings for the 2015 NFL Draft.

                              Edge rusher

                              1. Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida
                              2. Randy Gregory, Nebraska
                              3. Shane Ray, Missouri
                              4. Vic Beasley, Clemson
                              5. Bud Dupree, Kentucky

                              [URL]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000470108/article/mike-mayocks-position-rankings-for-2015-nfl-draft[/URL]
                              If the top 10 guys down somewhat how I predicted above, I would imagine that the team would be hoping that Vic Beasley or Alvin "Bud" Dupree or Trae Waynes or Landon Collins lasts beyond the next 11 picks before we choose. If any of those 4 guys fall, I would imagine that would be our selection.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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