Steeler FO did OK: Wallace might be out of football next year

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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27564

    #16
    Originally posted by Oviedo
    We can disagree. I think he saw how good Brown was going to become and how the coaching staff and players interacted with Brown. I think he saw that he would eventually be the #2 and catch heat here for the inflated contract he couldn't earn on the field. Kinda funny that is exactly what has happened in Miami.
    umm... that makes no sense at all.

    Brown wasn't even sniffing the endzone with Wallace on the field.
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    • SS Laser
      Pro Bowler
      • Apr 2009
      • 1929

      #17
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      umm... that makes no sense at all.

      Brown wasn't even sniffing the endzone with Wallace on the field.
      TD's had nothing to do with Wallace seeing Browns work ethic very day! How the coaches and other players interacted with him. How the QB was looking for Brown in practice! Heck the FO gave Brown the on contract. For 100% fact was it even offered to Wallace first? Wallace of course wanted his $$$$$$$. But he did know how good AB was going to be. Oh and they had a friendly wager for some serious $$ who would have a better 2014 season. Guess who won again.

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      • Snatch98
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1451

        #18
        Originally posted by SS Laser
        TD's had nothing to do with Wallace seeing Browns work ethic very day! How the coaches and other players interacted with him. How the QB was looking for Brown in practice! Heck the FO gave Brown the on contract. For 100% fact was it even offered to Wallace first? Wallace of course wanted his $$$$$$$. But he did know how good AB was going to be. Oh and they had a friendly wager for some serious $$ who would have a better 2014 season. Guess who won again.
        I thought the wager was with Sanders not Wallace?

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        • SS Laser
          Pro Bowler
          • Apr 2009
          • 1929

          #19
          Originally posted by Snatch98
          I thought the wager was with Sanders not Wallace?
          Oh DANG you could be correct there sir. My BAD.I would say AB still won the bet if it was with Sanders. Anyway AB still wins over Wallace every single day and twice on sundays!

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          • hawaiiansteel
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            • May 2008
            • 35651

            #20
            Originally posted by SS Laser
            Wallace of course wanted his $$$$$$$.
            Wallace is all about the $...

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
              • 27564

              #21
              Originally posted by SS Laser
              TD's had nothing to do with Wallace seeing Browns work ethic very day! How the coaches and other players interacted with him. How the QB was looking for Brown in practice! Heck the FO gave Brown the on contract. For 100% fact was it even offered to Wallace first? Wallace of course wanted his $$$$$$$. But he did know how good AB was going to be. Oh and they had a friendly wager for some serious $$ who would have a better 2014 season. Guess who won again.
              it's 100% fact that Wallace was offered a contract before Brown.

              whether he knew Brown would be a better WR or not is irrelevant...

              He wanted top dollar and he went to Miami to get it.
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              • Shoe
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 4044

                #22
                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                Wallace is all about the $...
                You guys are acting like that is a knock. Most guys are "regular Joe's", and they have to look at the money FIRST. If you are offered $17m to play at one place, and are offered $13m at another place (just made up numbers), you have to go with the first place. That's FOUR MILLION DOLLARS you're leaving on the table.

                There are a select few, who are making $50, 60, 70m, upwards of $100m. Those guys can give the "hometown discount". Wallace did what you, I, and everyone else here would've done.
                I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                • Mr.wizard
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                  • May 2014
                  • 6686

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  He was a #1 here only because Brown was young. Had he stayed he would not had been the #1 now. Not too many in Miami see him as a legit #1. As a matter of fact they see him like many did when he was here. Fast guy who can't make tough catches.

                  Look how great this worked out for the Steelers. The right player in Brown got the money and we have a player who could become better that Wallace because he actually has better skills and will fight for ball with Bryant...plus much less expensive and cap friendly.
                  Wallace leaving had nothing to do with brown, the steelers offered Wallace a contract before Brown, he turned them down, it wasn't the other way around. He left because he knew he could get more money in free agency. Not even AB predicted he was going to be this good, if he thought he would be this good he never would of signed the deal he got. Yes he is viewed here in south florida as a number 1 receiver, in fact listening to sports talk radio here in Miami the fans want Wallace back, and are questioning the coaches and the QB.

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                  • hawaiiansteel
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                    • May 2008
                    • 35651

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Shoe
                    Wallace did what you, I, and everyone else here would've done.
                    no, I would never quit on my team...

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                    • BradshawsHairdresser
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                      • Dec 2008
                      • 7056

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                      Wallace leaving had nothing to do with brown, the steelers offered Wallace a contract before Brown, he turned them down, it wasn't the other way around. He left because he knew he could get more money in free agency. Not even AB predicted he was going to be this good, if he thought he would be this good he never would of signed the deal he got. Yes he is viewed here in south florida as a number 1 receiver, in fact listening to sports talk radio here in Miami the fans want Wallace back, and are questioning the coaches and the QB.
                      The fans may want Wallace back, but do the Dolphins want him back?

                      Guess we'll find out.

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                      • bostonsteeler
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1529

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        We can disagree. I think he saw how good Brown was going to become and how the coaching staff and players interacted with Brown. I think he saw that he would eventually be the #2 and catch heat here for the inflated contract he couldn't earn on the field. Kinda funny that is exactly what has happened in Miami.
                        You credit Wallace with way too much foresight. Nobody saw Brown coming. Wallace, least of all -- he was clearly inflating his own capabilities in his mind; its inconceivable that he thought Brown could ever be better than him.

                        You must give it to the FO that they managed to net three valid stars (even if one of them is floundering in Miami).

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                        • Mr.wizard
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                          • May 2014
                          • 6686

                          #27
                          Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                          The fans may want Wallace back, but do the Dolphins want him back?

                          Guess we'll find out.
                          Even if the dolphin FO doesn't want him back, so what. They didn't want back Karlos Dansby, Brandon Marshall, and Vontae Davis back , but retain guys like tannehill and phillbin. They continue to shuffle guys through their system and continue to finish 8-8.

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                          • Oviedo
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                            • May 2008
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                            Wallace leaving had nothing to do with brown, the steelers offered Wallace a contract before Brown, he turned them down, it wasn't the other way around. He left because he knew he could get more money in free agency. Not even AB predicted he was going to be this good, if he thought he would be this good he never would of signed the deal he got. Yes he is viewed here in south florida as a number 1 receiver, in fact listening to sports talk radio here in Miami the fans want Wallace back, and are questioning the coaches and the QB.
                            Not sure what fans you are listening too, but I know at least a dozen fans here in the Orlando area that can't stand Wallace and see him as an "Overpaid fraud". That is the term one of them used not me although I have to agree.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27564

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              Not sure what fans you are listening too, but I know at least a dozen fans here in the Orlando area that can't stand Wallace and see him as an "Overpaid fraud". That is the term one of them used not me although I have to agree.
                              6 whole fans?

                              I'm not surprised. For some reason fans always think a high paid FA is supposed to instantly transform a team.

                              Anyone with some football knowledge should have known MW wasn't going to turn into Larry Fitz but that falls on the GM not MW.

                              It's no different then Steeler fans who expected Mike Mitchell to be all world his first year. Anyone who lives in NC could have told you he benefited from an insane front 7 and if they didn't get pressure he was suspect in coverage.
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                              • feltdizz
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                                • May 2008
                                • 27564

                                #30
                                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                                no, I would never quit on my team...
                                Wallace didn't quit on us and it's easy to say you wouldn't quit on your team but best believe if you knew your team may quit on you and there was a ton of money on the line you may change your mind.

                                Wallace more than likely tried to stay healthy or maybe he was lost in translation due to a new OC and new offensive philosophy.

                                It's easy for us to say we wouldn't do XYZ but if we grew up playing WR and had 20 to 30 million on the table more than likely we would operate a little differently.

                                I think it's way too easy to claim we wouldn't do something because we aren't in the thick of it.
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