Man, that was painful.

[SteelCrazy]

I think Troy and Ike will be gone.

And I agree on Mike Mitchell. I know a certain poster will get all bent out of shape when he sees this on here, but I thought Mitchell played poorly. But I'm sure we'll hear a bunch of excuses.

There isnt any excuses for Mitchell. He has been a weak link all year. He is a bottom tier safety and should be paid as such. I had a belief that he was a good find at the time of his signing, but he showed his game and I have been disappointed ever since.

[Ghost]

Mike should have let Gradkowski finish that drive and if the Steelers get the ball back, put Ben back in, Grad converted 3rd and 21 into a first down and looked comfortable, he should have finished the drive.

Pappy

Agreed. Let him finish the drive.

[phillyesq]

There isnt any excuses for Mitchell. He has been a weak link all year. He is a bottom tier safety and should be paid as such. I had a belief that he was a good find at the time of his signing, but he showed his game and I have been disappointed ever since.

It was an awful signing, particularly when you look at Malcolm Jenkins, a far superior player, signing for the same average annual value. Mitchell was a big miss by the FO.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Mike should have let Gradkowski finish that drive and if the Steelers get the ball back, put Ben back in, Grad converted 3rd and 21 into a first down and looked comfortable, he should have finished the drive.

Pappy

Yep. Grad may or may not have led the team to a TD, but he had a better chance than a still-woozy Ben. Poor call to put Ben back in at that point.

[NJ-STEELER]

Trying to block Suggs with a TE is never a good idea and the Steelers tried it repeatedly.

Pappy

our OTs struggle with him as well

[SteelCrazy]

It was an awful signing, particularly when you look at Malcolm Jenkins, a far superior player, signing for the same average annual value. Mitchell was a big miss by the FO.

We'd have a better Defense for sure with a player like Jenkins

[Oviedo]

Our 1st pick should be an OLB or a small DE to convert.

Really? Another LeBeau 2-3 year project is going to help this defense? That has been the problem not the solution.

Time to wake up we don't have the experience and depth to take time to do it LeBeau's way anymore. We need a simpler, straight forward attacking defense that can integrate new talent quicker not business as usual. None of this complexity BS that take too much time to learn and doesn't work anyway.

[JoshBroski]

Really? Another LeBeau 2-3 year project is going to help this defense? That has been the problem not the solution.

Time to wake up we don't have the experience and depth to take time to do it LeBeau's way anymore. We need a simpler, straight forward attacking defense that can integrate new talent quicker not business as usual. None of this complexity BS that take too much time to learn and doesn't work anyway.

Exactly. It'll be fun seeing our last 2 first round picks playing their real first season. They'll probably suck though since injuries didn't allow them to learn the defense in Mandarin and Italian. We'll likely see Shamarko play sometime in 2017. But since he can't start over a guy who had a torn groin all season who knows. Hopefully we'll see our 2015 first round pick start by 2020 barring an injury.

[grotonsteel]

Really? Another LeBeau 2-3 year project is going to help this defense? That has been the problem not the solution.

Time to wake up we don't have the experience and depth to take time to do it LeBeau's way anymore. We need a simpler, straight forward attacking defense that can integrate new talent quicker not business as usual. None of this complexity BS that take too much time to learn and doesn't work anyway.

If you give Dick lebeau first pick in the draft he will take 2-3 years to get snaps because he will be still learning the playbook. DL playbook fools only Steelers players.Time to fire DL. He cant coach anymore. If offense did not had TOP for 21 min in first half i think Ravens could have put 60 points on this pathetic Defense.

Drafting so many early RD LBers and still it is the weakest link. I think time to move to 4-3.

[thor75]

If you give Dick lebeau first pick in the draft he will take 2-3 years to get snaps because he will be still learning the playbook. DL playbook fools only Steelers players.Time to fire DL. He cant coach anymore. If offense did not had TOP for 21 min in first half i think Ravens could have put 60 points on this pathetic Defense.

Drafting so many early RD LBers and still it is the weakest link. I think time to move to 4-3.

Don't make the mistake I did and take out all your frustrations on a booze riddled tirade (sorry Lemming!!). LeBeau did fine with Tuitt, McCain, and Blake. I know the last two weren't rookies, but they were new to the system. I think 60 points is ridick. They have had trouble with the run defense, but that will hopefully change when they get some def lineman who will help Heyward.

[SteelCrazy]

If we have OLBers that can create pressure, our D is a top 5 D. Worilds is average and Jones is still an unknown. LeBeau is a good DC and even if he retires, you know who is gonna replace him, right?

[Oviedo]

If we have OLBers that can create pressure, our D is a top 5 D. Worilds is average and Jones is still an unknown. LeBeau is a good DC and even if he retires, you know who is gonna replace him, right?

Jones isn't unknown. Time to jump off the bandwagon and admit Jones may never even be Worilds. He got abused last night by back up James Hurst. He has no clue how to beat a good Left Tackle.

Also, time to realize that the "if we have OLBs" excuse is done. We have been draft LeBeau's "projects" and when is the last one to be successful? It is too high risk a proposition to take the time to "convert" these guys and hope they work out. Heck, we drafted the supposed perfect fit in Jarvis Jones and that has been a two year failure.

Need to simplify the defense and go to the 4-3 where players step into positions they have played for years not spend two years learning new ones. Our best pass rushers, that we really have not that we wish we had, are on the def line. So go to a system where we rely on the def line to attack the QB not OLBs we don't have and LeBeau can't develop.

[papillon]

If you give Dick lebeau first pick in the draft he will take 2-3 years to get snaps because he will be still learning the playbook. DL playbook fools only Steelers players.Time to fire DL. He cant coach anymore. If offense did not had TOP for 21 min in first half i think Ravens could have put 60 points on this pathetic Defense.

Drafting so many early RD LBers and still it is the weakest link. I think time to move to 4-3.

The offense had 21 minutes of TOP because the defense played well, they gave up 10 points. The offense didn't take advantage of their opportunities. The 2nd half is a different story, the defense and offense struggled, mostly the defense on 3rd down.

Pappy

[grotonsteel]

The offense had 21 minutes of TOP because the defense played well, they gave up 10 points. The offense didn't take advantage of their opportunities. The 2nd half is a different story, the defense and offense struggled, mostly the defense on 3rd down.

Pappy

How is that Defense played great in first half? Baltimore had around 8 min of possession and 3 drives. One went for FG another went for TD (~4 min) and first drive was a punt.

[Slapstick]

Jones isn't unknown. Time to jump off the bandwagon and admit Jones may never even be Worilds. He got abused last night by back up James Hurst. He has no clue how to beat a good Left Tackle.

Also, time to realize that the "if we have OLBs" excuse is done. We have been draft LeBeau's "projects" and when is the last one to be successful? It is too high risk a proposition to take the time to "convert" these guys and hope they work out. Heck, we drafted the supposed perfect fit in Jarvis Jones and that has been a two year failure.

Need to simplify the defense and go to the 4-3 where players step into positions they have played for years not spend two years learning new ones. Our best pass rushers, that we really have not that we wish we had, are on the def line. So go to a system where we rely on the def line to attack the QB not OLBs we don't have and LeBeau can't develop.

No, you're wrong. The jury is still out on Jones if you are a reasonable human being.

But, simplifying the D, if you have the athletes, can definitely work.