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Ben has been good to great for 11 years, this year he happened to put up the video game numbers all the other QBs have been putting up, it's interesting that it also coincides with the offensive line staying healthy and improving. It should give everyone an idea of just how dang good he's been under less than ideal circumstances from an offensive line perspective his entire career. Yea, he's had a great running game at times and typically a very stout defense, but he's been under duress in the pocket a lot during his career, IMO, pure pocket passers such as Brady and Manning would have put up less than spectacular numbers in the same situation. Of course, there's no way to prove that, it's just my opinion based on their preferred style of play, which is to drop back and deliver the ball from the pocket, a consistent pass rush causes them angst.
Congrats to Ben! The fans are going to miss him some day.
Pappy
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The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft
1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia
"Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount
I'm waiting for Elias to review the game and make that 1-yard uptick in Ben's passing stats. The entire offense fell 5 yards short of being the #1 ranked unit in the league. 5 yards! I don't expect that will change.
Ben has been good to great for 11 years, this year he happened to put up the video game numbers all the other QBs have been putting up, it's interesting that it also coincides with the offensive line staying healthy and improving. It should give everyone an idea of just how dang good he's been under less than ideal circumstances from an offensive line perspective his entire career. Yea, he's had a great running game at times and typically a very stout defense, but he's been under duress in the pocket a lot during his career, IMO, pure pocket passers such as Brady and Manning would have put up less than spectacular numbers in the same situation. Of course, there's no way to prove that, it's just my opinion based on their preferred style of play, which is to drop back and deliver the ball from the pocket, a consistent pass rush causes them angst.
Congrats to Ben! The fans are going to miss him some day.
Pappy
Ben's completion percentage goes up 75% after contact while every other QB's completion percentage DROPS by 50%. The NFL has never seen a QB like him...
Ben's completion percentage goes up 75% after contact while every other QB's completion percentage DROPS by 50%. The NFL has never seen a QB like him...
And, probably won't for a long time, if ever, he's a throwback player getting to play under today's relaxed rules for secondary play. IMO, he would have been a HOFer in the 70s as well as today, and probably the only quarterback that could say that (conjecture of course). I just don't see Manning, Brady, or Brees being as successful back in the day when you could head hunt without worrying about your checkbook, receivers could get bumped until the ball was in the air, etc Rogers (and Favre as well) are quarterbacks that I would give a a lot respect to and would think that their game and attitude would translate well in the 70s. Ben is a no brainer to be successful in the 70s.
Pappy
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The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft
1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia
"Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount
And, probably won't for a long time, if ever, he's a throwback player getting to play under today's relaxed rules for secondary play. IMO, he would have been a HOFer in the 70s as well as today, and probably the only quarterback that could say that (conjecture of course). I just don't see Manning, Brady, or Brees being as successful back in the day when you could head hunt without worrying about your checkbook, receivers could get bumped until the ball was in the air, etc Rogers (and Favre as well) are quarterbacks that I would give a a lot respect to and would think that their game and attitude would translate well in the 70s. Ben is a no brainer to be successful in the 70s.
Pappy
Very true. I dont think Brady or Manning last long in the 70s. Ben, and possibly Rodgers would shine in any age. I'm not a Favre fan -- his late career antics were annoying.
Very true. I don't think Brady or Manning last long in the 70s. Ben, and possibly Rodgers would shine in any age. I'm not a Favre fan -- his late career antics were annoying.
Favre's late career stuff was annoying, but he was tough as nails and would have competed well in the 70s, regardless of his antics.
Pappy
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The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft
1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia
"Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount
Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.
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