Todd Haley deserves some credit

[PerogiesPlus]

Why would I waste my time telling someone they are wrong when they claim they are ALWAYS right.

Always? No.

But I'm right, far more than I'm wrong.

Simply put for 8 years this team won games by throwing early, throwing vertical early, and then running the ball in the second half.

Now? We do the exact opposite.

But Todd Haley's BIGGEST issues are not using his talent correctly, not protecting his talent correctly, and trying to be cute.

If he just sticks with using said talent, instead of trying to show everyone how smart he is? This team would be 10-2 right now.

[Shawn]

Haley is a solid OC. I like him in the Burgh. But, in all honesty Munchak has greatly improved that OL...making it easier for Haley to do his job.

[Shawn]

I'm a fast healer.

Simply put Todd Haley's #1 focus is still Todd Haley.

It should be using the strengths of his talent, and he doesn't.

This is the best O I have seen since being a fan (1980). I can't even fathom why someone would trash Haley based upon the performance of this O. If they don't like the guy...fine. But, as a coach...he is good...real good.

[PerogiesPlus]

This is the best O I have seen since being a fan (1980). I can't even fathom why someone would trash Haley based upon the performance of this O. If they don't like the guy...fine. But, as a coach...he is good...real good.

If you think this is the best offense you've seen in 35 years you haven't been watching.

If the FORMER OC, did half the crap the Haley has done since he's been here? Destroyed.

But Pittsburgh Toddy gets a free pass.

[feltdizz]

If you think this is the best offense you've seen in 35 years you haven't been watching.

If the FORMER OC, did half the crap the Haley has done since he's been here? Destroyed.

But Pittsburgh Toddy gets a free pass.

you are correct that Arians would be trashed for running the same plays...

Arians was unfairly blamed for everything that went wrong or right...

but I can't lie, you are doing the same exact thing with Haley. He isn't the best but he is far from the worst.

[hawaiiansteel]

Guest: Haley has utilized his big weapons amazingly well this year and his offense put up ANOTHER 40 point game. Is there anything he can do that will get fans to like him and more importantly save his job?

Ed Bouchette: I think he and his offense are playing well enough that he does not have to worry about his job.

GSK: Ed, today may be your first chat without a fire Haley comment...any chance another team takes a look at him for a head coaching position.

Ed Bouchette: There is always that chance. He was interviewed once after his first season as Steelers offensive coordinator for the head coaching job in Arizona.

Scott: I thought Haley denied being interviewed by Arizona after he joined the Steelers?

Ed Bouchette: And Richard Nixon said "I am not a crook"

Scott in Dallas: How much are we seeing 8 in the box to counter Bell? Probably not too much with all the air power I bet.

Ed Bouchette: You got it. The balance they have long sought is here and it benefits both their running and passing games.

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[hawaiiansteel]

Simply put for 8 years this team won games by throwing early, throwing vertical early, and then running the ball in the second half.

Now? We do the exact opposite.

the Steelers lead the NFL in points scored during the fourth quarter, averaging 10.4 points scored per fourth quarter this season. only the Ravens (9.2) and Saints (9.1) are even close...

[SteelCrazy]

The best player on our offense isnt named Ben. Haley is doing a better job as the season goes on.......

[hawaiiansteel]

Haley is doing a better job as the season goes on.......

the one thing I'd like to see Haley do more of is to design some plays that allow Ben to roll out and move around more and not just be a stationary pocket passer...

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Always? No.

But I'm right, far more than I'm wrong.

Simply put for 8 years this team won games by throwing early, throwing vertical early, and then running the ball in the second half.

Now? We do the exact opposite.

But Todd Haley's BIGGEST issues are not using his talent correctly, not protecting his talent correctly, and trying to be cute.

If he just sticks with using said talent, instead of trying to show everyone how smart he is? This team would be 10-2 right now.

I was convinced I'd disagree with this explanation... but, I can't.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

the one thing I'd like to see Haley do more of is to design some plays that allow Ben to roll out and move around more and not just be a stationary pocket passer...

There are 3-4 things I'd like to see.
- More aggressive offense early in the game. It seems too often we let teams hang around that shouldn't because we start off very conservative.
- Legit attempts to get Dri the ball in space instead of power runs. He's a fly weight. Any contact will make him fall. Heck, even Big Casey coulda farted on him and made him fall. I'd like to see sweeps or line him up at WR and let him catch that quick-hitting WR screen. An OC should be able to design a play to use that speed... SOMEHOW
- Fewer screens up the middle to Heath. Opposite of Dri; he's too slow to get that pass. Even blocked guys are coming around the back to make tackles
- This last one is just me being annoyed - tired of cute plays in the red zone. There have been fewer lately.

All in all, I'd probably grade him a B- on the season, which is a significant improvement over what I would have given him 6 weeks ago. He has taken an early D grade and peppered in a couple of A performances in recent weeks.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

the one thing I'd like to see Haley do more of is to design some plays that allow Ben to roll out and move around more and not just be a stationary pocket passer...

- More aggressive offense early in the game. It seems too often we let teams hang around that shouldn't because we start off very conservative.
- Legit attempts to get Dri the ball in space instead of power runs. He's a fly weight. Any contact will make him fall. Heck, even Big Casey coulda farted on him and made him fall. I'd like to see sweeps or line him up at WR and let him catch that quick-hitting WR screen. An OC should be able to design a play to use that speed... SOMEHOW
- Fewer screens up the middle to Heath. Opposite of Dri; he's too slow to get that pass. Even blocked guys are coming around the back to make tackles
- This last one is just me being annoyed - tired of cute plays in the red zone. There have been fewer lately.

Agree with all of these. Also agree that Haley has been improving. Good to see.

[Shawn]

Is it that Haley is improving or the execution of the plays that is improving? I vote for the later.

[Eich]

the one thing I'd like to see Haley do more of is to design some plays that allow Ben to roll out and move around more and not just be a stationary pocket passer...

1000% agree. Ben is fantastic at throwing on the move, yet it seems we rarely design a play for him to do that. It seems it only happens when the pocket breaks down and Ben has to move.

Often times I see Flacco do a misdirection and roll out to the opposite side of where everyone else is moving and it gives him all kinds of time and the ability to survey the field well.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

1000% agree. Ben is fantastic at throwing on the move, yet it seems we rarely design a play for him to do that. It seems it only happens when the pocket breaks down and Ben has to move.

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I've never been able to understand why they don't have more designed rollouts for Ben. They seem to be such an obvious fit for his abilities.