Tomlin...

[MrHand]

New Orleans was gashed by the run the past 2 weeks. The Titans were never able to stop the run. I don't want to see a return to 3 yards and a cloud of dust as the offense but I have no problem with attacking a team's weakness.

The Jets had two corners with a combined 8 starts.

It look the Steelers 23 minutes before they threw a pass longer than 7 yards.

Haley did Art II's dirty work.

Haley's just a symptom.

Art II is the disease.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Well I guess I'm a fool because I believe the "legend" has significant say in what defensive players are drafted. To think otherwise I just find as proof of the portrayal of victim that some do to shield LeBeau for the blame he deserves to protect his overstated and outdated reputation. His glory days as a Def Coord are 5+ years in his rear view mirror. Everyone loses it eventually and he has.

You really believe lebeau is that heavily involved in player evaluations? I dont. And this fantasy you seem to have about lebeau being portrayed as a "victim" is a figment of your imagination and used to promote your agenda. I might take you more seriously if you didn't go down these ridiculous rabbit holes. When you get a minute, explain how lebeaus reputation is "overstated". A lot of people who have been in the game say the exact opposite. Are you saying you know more than them?

Back to draft day decisions, at most they might ask him which position he think needs a boost, imo and I'm not even sure they do that. If Tomlin needs his hand held to that extent, he is grossly overpaid. Tomlin\colbert hold sway on draft day, IMO. 50\50 with MT getting the nod if they have equally rated players at different position

Just out of curiosity, what percentage do you put on lebeau in draft day decisions?

[MrHand]

Based on what I was told I would say LeBeau has as much say in draft decisions as Tomlin. Ditto for Haley. Arians also.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Based on what I was told I would say LeBeau has as much say in draft decisions as Tomlin. Ditto for Haley. Arians also.

Based on what you were told and $5 is worth a cup of coffee

Message board BS

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Based on what I was told I would say LeBeau has as much say in draft decisions as Tomlin. Ditto for Haley. Arians also.

Arians still has say in draft decisions? Maybe the Steelers didn't diss him as much as y'all thought!

Seriously, it's awfully hard to believe that the OC and DC would have as much say in draft decisions as the HC does. I think you got some bad info.

[MrHand]

Arians still has say in draft decisions? Maybe the Steelers didn't diss him as much as y'all thought!

Seriously, it's awfully hard to believe that the OC and DC would have as much say in draft decisions as the HC does. I think you got some bad info.

This same source also gave me the money that Cowher turned down prior to 2006.

MONTHS before John Clayton and his "exclusive" scoop.

[fordfixer]

So let's see if I got this right.,.., This loss is the fault of the Owners, GM, HC, OC, DC, Ben, Troy, and Ike, I'm sure I have missed someone, but any way this sounds like a team loss to me.

[SS Laser]

So let's see if I got this right.,.., This loss is the fault of the Owners, GM, HC, OC, DC, Ben, Troy, and Ike, I'm sure I have missed someone, but any way this sounds like a team loss to me.

REALLY? Football is a team game? COME ON!

[fordfixer]

REALLY? Football is a team game? COME ON!

I know crazy huh?