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  • BradshawsHairdresser
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 7056

    Draft Picks Progress

    Daniel McCullers--inactive
    Shaq Richardson--practice squad
    Wesley Johnson--waived, claimed by Jets
    Martavis Bryant--inactive
    Dri Archer--not effective in limited action
    Stephon Tuitt--mostly stuck on the bench
    Ryan Shazier--started, now out due to injury


    On a team that is coming off of back-to-back 8-8 seasons, only one of this year's draft picks has really been what I could call a contributor (not saying that some of them won't eventually be). Not one currently is.

    This is a problem.

    How much of it is due to coaches being reluctant to play rookies? How much is due to the system being too difficult to learn quickly? How much is due to rookies not being talented enough to get on the field? How much is due to coaches being unable to develop players?

    I see other teams getting more rookies into the action. Why can't the Steelers?

    I see a stiff like Cam Thomas trying to play DE...I have to wonder, could Tuitt be any worse? He has to have more upside.

    I see the O struggle in the Red Zone. I think, wouldn't it be worth putting Bryant in there to see if he could be the weapon that Ben sorely needs?

    Now that Keisel is hurt, would it hurt that much to slide McLendon to end and try McCullers in the middle for a couple of plays?

    What am I missing?
    Last edited by BradshawsHairdresser; 10-13-2014, 09:16 PM.
  • Slapstick
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 0

    #2
    I dunno. I think that the coaches go with the players that they honestly believe will give them the best chance to win. With all of the injuries on the D line, I think that McCullers and Tuitt will get increased PT simply by having a pulse and two healthy legs.
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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    • Shoe
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4044

      #3
      The losses of Shazier and Jones were HUGE in hindsight. Neither are current superstars, BUT. They both could bring a level of dynamism that this defense SORELY SORELY lacks. Jarvis isn't the next Demarcus Ware, but he does have a suddenness with the way he tackles, that can cause fumbles. And Shazier is just so fast, that he's bound to be where offensive players don't expect. Losing those two guys, meant we were left with an old Harrison, and whoever plays in Shazier's stead.
      I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35651

        #4
        Gerry Dulac @gerrydulac · Oct 12

        After watching the Browns run through the defense, I think it's time we see Daniel McCullers.

        [URL]https://twitter.com/gerrydulac[/URL]

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        • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 10287

          #5
          Originally posted by Shoe
          The losses of Shazier and Jones were HUGE in hindsight. Neither are current superstars, BUT. They both could bring a level of dynamism that this defense SORELY SORELY lacks. Jarvis isn't the next Demarcus Ware, but he does have a suddenness with the way he tackles, that can cause fumbles. And Shazier is just so fast, that he's bound to be where offensive players don't expect. Losing those two guys, meant we were left with an old Harrison, and whoever plays in Shazier's stead.
          I agree, along with the constantly underrated Ike Taylor. Jones was beginning to step up his game, and show some progress. Shazier just flashed here and there. Both need to play in order to improve, and neither are getting the chance.
          http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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          • WindyCitySteel
            Legend
            • Nov 2011
            • 15684

            #6
            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
            Gerry Dulac @gerrydulac · Oct 12

            After watching the Browns run through the defense, I think it's time we see Daniel McCullers.

            [URL]https://twitter.com/gerrydulac[/URL]
            Does he know every play in seven languages yet?

            Too risky - rookies might make mistakes and lose games to Tampa and Cleveland.

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            • WindyCitySteel
              Legend
              • Nov 2011
              • 15684

              #7
              Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
              What am I missing?
              Same thing we're all missing - a competent coaching staff.

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27564

                #8
                Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                I agree, along with the constantly underrated Ike Taylor. Jones was beginning to step up his game, and show some progress. Shazier just flashed here and there. Both need to play in order to improve, and neither are getting the chance.
                nice try on Ike
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • fezziwig
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3515

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                  Daniel McCullers--inactive
                  Shaq Richardson--practice squad
                  Wesley Johnson--waived, claimed by Jets
                  Martavis Bryant--inactive
                  Dri Archer--not effective in limited action
                  Stephon Tuitt--mostly stuck on the bench
                  Ryan Shazier--started, now out due to injury


                  On a team that is coming off of back-to-back 8-8 seasons, only one of this year's draft picks has really been what I could call a contributor (not saying that some of them won't eventually be). Not one currently is.

                  This is a problem.

                  How much of it is due to coaches being reluctant to play rookies? How much is due to the system being too difficult to learn quickly? How much is due to rookies not being talented enough to get on the field? How much is due to coaches being unable to develop players?

                  I see other teams getting more rookies into the action. Why can't the Steelers?

                  I see a stiff like Cam Thomas trying to play DE...I have to wonder, could Tuitt be any worse? He has to have more upside.

                  I see the O struggle in the Red Zone. I think, wouldn't it be worth putting Bryant in there to see if he could be the weapon that Ben sorely needs?

                  Now that Keisel is hurt, would it hurt that much to slide McLendon to end and try McCullers in the middle for a couple of plays?

                  What am I missing?
                  Your not missing a thing. Why these coaches don't bite the bullet with some of these young players and accept possibly losing due to growing pains rather than losing because of old and players that are not improving is a shame. Comes to the point the coaches don't want the Rooneys to know they messed with having Cam Thomas or declaring Cortez was the man to give the contract to. Lets act as if it's all good choices and don't look at me Mr. Rooney, it's the yellow flags beating us.
                  Last edited by fezziwig; 10-14-2014, 08:46 AM.

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                  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 3938

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    Gerry Dulac @gerrydulac · Oct 12

                    After watching the Browns run through the defense, I think it's time we see Daniel McCullers.

                    [URL]https://twitter.com/gerrydulac[/URL]
                    I think it has to happen. You live with the growing pains.

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                    • Ghost
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6413

                      #11
                      McLendon suffered a shoulder sprain in the Cle game. Its the same one he hurt in the Baltimore game although he did play at Carolina the next week. Doesn't the staff have to be prepared for the possibility that a twice injured shoulder could go at any time? Inactivate Heyward Bey who's not doing anything and give Baby Huey a helmet.
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                      • sick beats
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 2144

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                        Does he know every play in seven languages yet?

                        Too risky - rookies might make mistakes and lose games to Tampa and Cleveland.
                        LOL. Oh, we need humor now a days. This team SUCKS.

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                        • sick beats
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 2144

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shoe
                          The losses of Shazier and Jones were HUGE in hindsight. Neither are current superstars, BUT. They both could bring a level of dynamism that this defense SORELY SORELY lacks. Jarvis isn't the next Demarcus Ware, but he does have a suddenness with the way he tackles, that can cause fumbles. And Shazier is just so fast, that he's bound to be where offensive players don't expect. Losing those two guys, meant we were left with an old Harrison, and whoever plays in Shazier's stead.
                          We sucked WITH JJ and Shazier. I don't see that as what makes us BLOW so bad. We sucked with them, we suck without them. No difference.

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                          • fezziwig
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3515

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                            I think it has to happen. You live with the growing pains.
                            Exactly. I hear his own teammates say he is the immoveable object

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                            • papillon
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 11340

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sick beats
                              We sucked WITH JJ and Shazier. I don't see that as what makes us BLOW so bad. We sucked with them, we suck without them. No difference.
                              The problem is that they aren't getting reps regardless of whether the team is good or not, they are the future, at least for right now.

                              Pappy
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                              The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
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