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  • sick beats
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2013
    • 2144

    A report from the game

    - Idyllic weather conditions. Low 70's and pure sunshine. Some of the Steeler fans who traveled for the game said if this is what weather is like down here, they seriously are considering moving down here. But, Sept. games are often not this nice. They can be scorchers, but generally, by Oct. we have gorgeous weather for the rest of the season.

    - Yes, tons and tons of Steeler fans, especially in the lots tailgaiting. Generally, Steeler fans take tail gating to a higher level than almost all other fan bases, and it's no different with Jag fans. The majority of us, come prepared, with grills, all the fixings, a huge variety of food and drink. The lot I was in was completely dominated by Steeler fan. It looked like a home game.

    - Southern hospitality is a real thing. For the most part, everyone got along just fine. I saw two little spats the entire day. One was when walking to the stadium, a "Here we go Steelers" chant broke out, and at the end verse, some Jag fans would chant, "You suck." So it went like, "Here we Steelers, here we go," "You suck." It didn't last for more than a few lines. And a couple of chicks almost fist fought after the pick six. But that was it. Other than that, everyone was super friendly to each other all day long. People are just more friendly down here, and those Steeler fans who move here become more civil from living down here, as well. I know I did.

    - The stadium and game-day experience are great at Ever Bank Field. The two pool sections are cool. The massive screens they put in this year are fantastic. Food, drink and bathroom facilities are all well done. The new owner is putting a real effort into making sure fan experience is great, especially since team quality is still very lacking. Jag fans want to win, but don't let it ruin their day if they don't. The couple we came in with are Jag fans, and were not down one bit from the loss. They still had a great time.

    - I feel like seeing the game live, the Steelers' flaws are even more apparent. Watching all those short screen passes look even more inept than they do on TV. Why they throw so many short passes to the right flat is beyond me. They never work. They were wasted plays every time they through them. If we keep with the Haley play calls, we will never be any sort of contender. It was horrid. Bell only had 15 carries. If he had more like 25 it would have probably made this game a much easier W. They waste so many plays, it's just sickening. Why no more passes to Miller? Ben looks hand cuffed in this system with these calls. All other teams blew the Jags' D off the field. Philly put 34 up, Skins 41, Colts 44, Bolts 33. Pgh's O put up a pathetic 10, the pic 6 gave us the other 7. That tells me Pgh is pathetic on offense. Our coaches care more about protecting their ego than doing what's best for the team. If they let Ben go no huddle and call his own plays, they would be respectable. As it is, they are pretty much pathetic.

    - The D only gave up 9, but that's against a rookie QB, a junk OL, no legit RB and a WR unit down it''s top 4 players. Make no mistake: The Jags' ineptness made our D look much better than it really is. And at the end of the first half, Bortles looked like Dan Marino when he was allowed to open it up. He was gutting us with huge chunk plays.

    - Troy Pulomalo is a liability. I saw him defend one play, and maybe make one tackle. Other than that, he is like not having an 11th defender. He flies around hitting nothing but air or drawing flags. The fact that LaBueu doesn't see this tells as all we need to know. They need to take their man love fest into retirement. We will never be that good on D again until those two are gone.

    - It is just incredible that this team allowed a winless Jags' team to stay in the game while ALL OTHER teams who play them, just destroy them. And this is with no home field advantage to speak of, whether measured with the weather or fan noise. It might as well been a neutral site. We are the first team to play them that didn't just blow them out. What does that tell you?

    This team is going no where, other than hope to hit 8-8 again. It's a shame, because if someone running the show witnessed the obvious problems and corrected them, we'd be a contender. But as it is, squeaking by the likes of the worst teams is all we can aspire to achieve. All that being said, partying with so many Steeler fans, among all the sun shine and palm trees, was such a blast and I will never forget it. But each and every fan I spoke with, after the game, all concluded that this team is not very good, nor will it be all season long. And if they enter 2015 with this same structure, play calling, and coaches, it will be more of the same. This model simply doesn't work.
  • Snatch98
    Pro Bowler
    • May 2008
    • 1451

    #2
    I'd like to see Ben take more shots down field but to say the short passes don't work is bs. Do I feel like some of them are poorly timed? Do I feel that Ben is occasionally handcuffed? Absolutely BUT we do have the speed to make those short throws work and they work often enough for them to not be completely abandoned. What I do know is that despite some of the sacks Ben is taking he's never getting killed (outside of the upshaw hit). We are one bad punt or a better third down call away from 4-1. Hell I could argue that if Ben didn't get rocked by upshaw against the ravens (he was never the same after that hit for the rest of the game) we could realistically be 5-0.

    We are a team in transition and i'll borrow something from coach gruden that because of the shortened preseason teams are still working things out. We are a spoiled fanbase with a bunch of doom and gloomers prancing around at every corner. Instead of relishing in the positives people almost love to get the opportunity to dance with the negative. It makes for a crappy message board experience. I'm not implying we should be cheerleaders but the steelers are 3-2. Look around at the rest of the NFL for comparison. You don't have an offense near tops in many categories if the offense isn't working. It also needs to be said that every team in the league is a professional football team. The bucs aren't as bad as people are making them out to be and the jags were at home. Let's not forget the small rivalry we used to have with that team. Fred Taylor ringing any bells? Everyone needs go relax and sick you need to quit sh.hitting up this board with all your doom and gloom. Its not appreciated by anyone here.

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    • Steelhere10
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3849

      #3
      I reported this morning that Dickey played (coached) a soft defense the last drive before halftime that made Bortles look like Motana, of course I was called out by a poster who said pretty much that I was wrong, go figure I found this and another article saying some of the same things lol.
      [url=http://img525.imageshack.us/i/steelers2010.jpg/]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2...eelers2010.jpg[/url]

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      • Snatch98
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1451

        #4
        Originally posted by Steelhere10
        I reported this morning that Dickey played (coached) a soft defense the last drive before halftime that made Bortles look like Motana, of course I was called out by a poster who said pretty much that I was wrong, go figure I found this and another article saying some of the same things lol.
        You found a doom and gloom article about the steelers? Nooooo wayyyyyy

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        • Steelhere10
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 3849

          #5
          About the soft defense before the half. Lol
          [url=http://img525.imageshack.us/i/steelers2010.jpg/]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2...eelers2010.jpg[/url]

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          • sick beats
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2013
            • 2144

            #6
            Snatch68

            I'd like to see Ben take more shots down field but to say the short passes don't work is bs. Do I feel like some of them are poorly timed? Do I feel that Ben is occasionally handcuffed? Absolutely BUT we do have the speed to make those short throws work and they work often enough for them to not be completely abandoned.

            Straw man argument. I never said to completely wipe them out. But if you were there LIVE, you could see how many were forced and without hope of succeeding, and yet, there was Haley, still calling them all game long, even when you could plainly see they had no chance of working. Take some of those plays and give it to Bell (only had 15 carries), or hit Miller in the seam.
            What I do know is that despite some of the sacks Ben is taking he's never getting killed (outside of the upshaw hit). We are one bad punt or a better third down call away from 4-1. Hell I could argue that if Ben didn't get rocked by upshaw against the ravens (he was never the same after that hit for the rest of the game) we could realistically be 5-0.
            We also could have EASILY lost to the Browns, had it not been for Ben heroics, saving us again. We could easily be looking at 1-4.


            We are a team in transition and i'll borrow something from coach gruden that because of the shortened preseason teams are still working things out. We are a spoiled fanbase with a bunch of doom and gloomers prancing around at every corner. Instead of relishing in the positives people almost love to get the opportunity to dance with the negative. It makes for a crappy message board experience. I'm not implying we should be cheerleaders but the steelers are 3-2. Look around at the rest of the NFL for comparison. You don't have an offense near tops in many categories if the offense isn't working. It also needs to be said that every team in the league is a professional football team. The bucs aren't as bad as people are making them out to be and the jags were at home. Let's not forget the small rivalry we used to have with that team. Fred Taylor ringing any bells? Everyone needs go relax and sick you need to quit sh.hitting up this board with all your doom and gloom. Its not appreciated by anyone here.
            There is something out there called reality. If some of us choose to live in it, that is our choice. You don't like my posts, don't read them. I am not always gloom and doom, that is an assertion of yours not based in reality. I don't tell you how to think or what to prefer, SO DON"T TRY TO DIDACTICALLY tell me the same. This team has deep issues that can't be masked and will not go away, which is more about coaching than the actual players on the team. Watching a live game, vs. an 0-5 team CLEARLY makes it obvious. There wasn't a single Steeler fan, at the game, that I spoke to, that disagrees on that point. NO ONE I spoke to thinks this team will be relevant in the post season. Can you imagine what will happen to this team when they play a non rookie QB who is decent, a team with a legit rushing game and a solid D? We could just barely squeak by the Jags, and as I already said, they had no home field advantage; the weather was perfect - not too hot for us - and half the fans there were Steeler fans. How is that a home field advantage? It is not.

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            • sick beats
              Pro Bowler
              • Dec 2013
              • 2144

              #7
              Originally posted by Steelhere10
              I reported this morning that Dickey played (coached) a soft defense the last drive before halftime that made Bortles look like Motana, of course I was called out by a poster who said pretty much that I was wrong, go figure I found this and another article saying some of the same things lol.
              Some don't have the intestinal fortitude to admit that the team has major issues. Fine, live with your head in the sand, but don't demand others to do the same. Haley's play calling is atrocious and Dicky's D is shaky as hell. Much of the problems could be resolved if we weren't playing 10 men vs. 11 (Troy free lancing just leaves gaping holes all over). Yea, we only gave up 9...vs. a team everyone else beats by 20+ points.

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              • RobinCole
                Pro Bowler
                • Apr 2014
                • 1358

                #8
                Steelhere, you admitted that the comparison to Montana was a bit of an exaggeration. So please cut the crap. For the GAME, Bortles had a passer rating of 52. That is not worthy of comparison to Montana. As I said earlier, his time may come. It hasn't come yet. A lot of QBs will look good on a couple of series or on one drive ( that ends in a FG). That does not a HOFer make. Bortles has some potential. Let's leave it at that.

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                • Snatch98
                  Pro Bowler
                  • May 2008
                  • 1451

                  #9
                  How many teams have a decent to good qb, a stout d and a strong run game? Seattle? You act like those teams grow on trees. Better yet based on your standards the steelers aren't too far off. We just need our defense to pull it together a little more. There isn't a team in the NFL right now that looks flat out dominant.

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27532

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RobinCole
                    Steelhere, you admitted that the comparison to Montana was a bit of an exaggeration. So please cut the crap. For the GAME, Bortles had a passer rating of 52. That is not worthy of comparison to Montana. As I said earlier, his time may come. It hasn't come yet. A lot of QBs will look good on a couple of series or on one drive ( that ends in a FG). That does not a HOFer make. Bortles has some potential. Let's leave it at that.
                    nah... he is right about the soft defense. It gives the opponent a shot at the end zone and we all know our D is prone to make mistakes in coverage during the 2 minute drill.

                    No one said Bortles was a Hofer and anyone who watched the game knows damn well he didn't look like Montana.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27532

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Snatch98
                      How many teams have a decent to good qb, a stout d and a strong run game? Seattle? You act like those teams grow on trees. Better yet based on your standards the steelers aren't too far off. We just need our defense to pull it together a little more. There isn't a team in the NFL right now that looks flat out dominant.
                      as bad as our D looks at times it's still on the O when it comes down to it.

                      I think our O is good enough to keep us in ANY game if the play calling is good. We handcuffed our QB last game and barely won vs a bad opponent. IMO this was the game to get a nice rhythm on offense and we completely destroyed it by running 30 bubble screens and not using Bell in the run game.
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Sick beats,

                        Starting this thread with your impressions of your experiences from attending the game is an example of the insightful analysis that you are capable of at times (whether or not others agree with your points notwithstanding).

                        However, you then revert back to the childish LaBueu nonsense, and have now added your disdain for Pulomalo using the same intentional misspelling of a petulant child. Don't give me the bullcrap dyslexia excuse, since you have already proven that you not only know how to spell dyslexia, but also several other other examples from this very thread including idyllic, didactically, intestinal fortitude, atrocious, etc.
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • sick beats
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 2144

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Snatch98
                          How many teams have a decent to good qb, a stout d and a strong run game? Seattle? You act like those teams grow on trees. Better yet based on your standards the steelers aren't too far off. We just need our defense to pull it together a little more. There isn't a team in the NFL right now that looks flat out dominant.
                          I never said that there are many dominant teams out there. But I sure as sugar KNOW there are teams with better OL, QB, D and rushing games than the Jags have. Are you insane? Jags are at the bottom of almost every single O and D category there are. What teams would be tougher to defend and score on than the Jags? Let's see, how about, EVERYONE? The have no OL, no WRs worth a damn, no running backs that scare ANYONE, a rookie QB, a D that has been dominated by every single team who plays them.

                          What teams have a decent QB, running game and D? Oh well, off the top of my head.....

                          SD, NE, Den, Balt, Cinci, Philly, Dallas, Sea, Det, NYG.....even KC. All 11 of those teams beat us if we play like we did vs. Jags. Oh, AZ and SF too. Shoot, even Cleveland has some decent balance compared to Jags.

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                          • sick beats
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 2144

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                            Sick beats,

                            Starting this thread with your impressions of your experiences from attending the game is an example of the insightful analysis that you are capable of at times (whether or not others agree with your points notwithstanding).

                            However, you then revert back to the childish LaBueu nonsense, and have now added your disdain for Pulomalo using the same intentional misspelling of a petulant child. Don't give me the bullcrap dyslexia excuse, since you have already proven that you not only know how to spell dyslexia, but also several other other examples from this very thread including idyllic, didactically, intestinal fortitude, atrocious, etc.
                            I don't think this board is designed to discuss off topic posts, like my posting style, etc. No one cares. They are here to discuss the Steelers. As am I. If I don't like how DL and Troy get free passes for their failures, that is on topic with that this board was intended on.

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #15
                              You are full of crap when it comes to the juvenile, intentional misspelling of LeBeau's (and now Polamalu's) name...you make it a topic of discussion by doing it, so don't try to use that as an excuse...if you don't want it to be a topic of discussion, then grow up...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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