Injuries leading to better D?

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  • Shawn
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 15131
    #1

    Injuries leading to better D?

    Please don't misinterpret what I am saying here. I am a JJ and Shazier fan. JJ is just starting to understand this D and make plays...Shazier often looks lost but I think will be a very special player with time. But, do these injuries actually make this D better...right now? Is this D better with Moats and Spence starting? My argument is that having a vet with a chip on his shoulder in Moats (also silverback as a pass rush specialist and for team morale) and Spence who has been a student for a couple years now...means we have guys who know what they are doing. While I believe the ceiling for both are lower...I believe they bring more value now.

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    Trolls are people too.
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    • K Train
      Hall of Famer
      • Jan 2014
      • 3685
      #2
      I don't disagree. But, I am saddened by the injuries, both are so promising and jones was playing very well, shazier will only be out a little but missing reps against these bad teams is not good for him.

      Moats will be awesome, I just wish he was replacing worilds who has shown absolutely nothing so far. Spence I think will be better than shazier but we do have to see how he holds up...both are undersized but spence plays very big, think 5-9 Steve smith playing wr like he's 9 feet tall, that's how I look at spence. But he's still small and throws his body around like a 260 pounders

      I hope moats kills it. I think he's a lot better than our $10 million man

      Blake is concerning but I'm glad gay will stay in the slot

      Also, I don't think Harrison is a pass rushing specialist at this point. That's what I would consider worilds, but I'd still expect Harrison to crush against the run he was always so good in traffic and in pursuit

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        • sick beats
          Pro Bowler
          • Dec 2013
          • 2144
          #3
          I think I already asserted this same point in another thread. I honestly think the mix of Deebo, Moats and Spence in with JJ and Shazier out will indeed lead to a better D, right now. I honestly do believe this. As far as a tough guy mentality, that definitely just upped with #92 on the roster, even if he doesn't play every down. I don't think we will see him much this week, but moving forward, as he gets in football shape, I believe he will get some reps on the field. Spence has shown good instincts already, where as Shazier has been invisible so far this season; I think he needs a year to get indoctrinated to the NFL.

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            • birtikidis
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4628
              #4
              No. Does that help?
              Having a guy start at MLB who wasn't even able to suit up for years, is not the key to making your team better. And if you think Moats is anywhere near as good as JJ then you're delusional. He made ONE play in GARBAGE time when the offense had no choice but to throw. Not even a slight threat of a run.

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                • K Train
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 3685
                  #5
                  Originally posted by birtikidis
                  No. Does that help?
                  Having a guy start at MLB who wasn't even able to suit up for years, is not the key to making your team better. And if you think Moats is anywhere near as good as JJ then you're delusional. He made ONE play in GARBAGE time when the offense had no choice but to throw. Not even a slight threat of a run.
                  I keep trying to give you my bit coin address

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208
                      #6
                      I also think that Allen, Gay, and either Blake or McCain or Webb is a significant downgrade from Taylor, Allen, and Gay with the other guys contributing pretty much only on special teams.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • Coolie Man
                          Backup
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 351
                          #7
                          JJ been in this defense longer than Moats

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                            • Shawn
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15131
                              #8
                              Originally posted by birtikidis
                              No. Does that help?
                              Having a guy start at MLB who wasn't even able to suit up for years, is not the key to making your team better. And if you think Moats is anywhere near as good as JJ then you're delusional. He made ONE play in GARBAGE time when the offense had no choice but to throw. Not even a slight threat of a run.
                              No that doesn't help...but thanks for trying.
                              Trolls are people too.

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                                • Shawn
                                  Legend
                                  • Mar 2008
                                  • 15131
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                                  I also think that Allen, Gay, and either Blake or McCain or Webb is a significant downgrade from Taylor, Allen, and Gay with the other guys contributing pretty much only on special teams.
                                  I might be the only guy here who likes Blake. I'm not saying he is ready...or even good yet. But, I liked some of what I seen...how he shadows WRs and moves really well. I think the guy has potential.
                                  Trolls are people too.

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                                    • K Train
                                      Hall of Famer
                                      • Jan 2014
                                      • 3685
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Shawn
                                      I might be the only guy here who likes Blake. I'm not saying he is ready...or even good yet. But, I liked some of what I seen...how he shadows WRs and moves really well. I think the guy has potential.
                                      I like him on the outside using the sideline. Gay can start in base but he's a great slot corner and should stay there

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                                        • steelsnis
                                          Starter
                                          • Dec 2008
                                          • 980
                                          #11
                                          I think that Moats and Spence might be ok for the short term. I think both are going to be capable fill-ins and could potentially bring something to the table that the starters did not. I just hate the fact that JJ and Shazier are both missing valuable in-game, full-speed reps as first and second year players.

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                                            • birtikidis
                                              Hall of Famer
                                              • May 2008
                                              • 4628
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by K Train
                                              I keep trying to give you my bit coin address

                                              1LfDhPBfHStiuX4Zf3UYMmZP1sjzsVuqDg
                                              and i sent it over a week ago

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                                                • birtikidis
                                                  Hall of Famer
                                                  • May 2008
                                                  • 4628
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Shawn
                                                  No that doesn't help...but thanks for trying.
                                                  Read it slowly

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                                                    • Shawn
                                                      Legend
                                                      • Mar 2008
                                                      • 15131
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by birtikidis
                                                      Read it slowly
                                                      Nope...still didn't help.
                                                      Trolls are people too.

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                                                        • birtikidis
                                                          Hall of Famer
                                                          • May 2008
                                                          • 4628
                                                          #15
                                                          K, According to the blockchain you received it 9 days ago
                                                          [url]https://blockchain.info/tx/8702cce7f51c4d2a9904afd5a528a34685ee4a5dbad3143c80 ee63a8b575b788[/url]

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