With Ike out forever...make a play for

[Dee Dub]

Morris Claiborne. Why not? He's better than what they have regardless if he has not lived up to his billing. With him being in the doghouse and having not lived up to expectations he could be had for a second round pick? Again...why not?

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[K Train]

He is physcially very gifted but he has no concept of coverages, he is very very dumb.

At least BW webb has some experience in the system now, and he didnt cost a 2nd round pick (claiborne would be lucky to get a 6th for how bad hes been btw)

Not saying i wouldnt be excited with acquiring him, i just dont think he would make an impact this season

[Rara]

Send a 5th round pick to Dallas for Claiborne! Get it done, Steelers!

[steelsnis]

I actually thought about that this morning when I read about Claiborne and his dealings with Dallas. Could probably be had for cheap.

[Shawn]

No thank you. We are seeing in Cleveland what happens to these guys who are merely athletic...ie Gilbert. Give me a guy who runs a 4.5 with average cover skills but has the ability to diagnose plays...and plays smart...over the guy who is a freak athlete without a stone in his head.

[Dee Dub]

No thank you. We are seeing in Cleveland what happens to these guys who are merely athletic...ie Gilbert. Give me a guy who runs a 4.5 with average cover skills but has the ability to diagnose plays...and plays smart...over the guy who is a freak athlete without a stone in his head.

No on Morris Claiborne for a second or third? I think the risk/reward would be worth it. But hey....let's take a look at what you would rather have. Where do you suggest they get that guy? He's not currently on the roster who is pegged to replace Ike.

Claiborne excelled in Saban's 3-4 at Alabama. Dont remember anyone questioning his smarts or character then.

[K Train]

No on Morris Claiborne for a second or third? I think the risk/reward would be worth it. But hey....let's take a look at what you would rather have. Where do you suggest they get that guy? He's not currently on the roster who is pegged to replace Ike.

Claiborne excelled in Saban's 3-4 at Alabama. Dont remember anyone questioning his smarts or character then.

I think he scored like a 4 on the wonderlic, not a great evaluation of intelliegnce by any means but....a 4

Him and Patrick peterson were both dumb as bricks though.

And not that a back end of the defense has much to do with a 34 or a 43, but claiborne did not play in alabamas 34, he played in LSUs 43.

[Dee Dub]

I think he scored like a 4 on the wonderlic, not a great evaluation of intelliegnce by any means but....a 4

Him and Patrick peterson were both dumb as bricks though.

And not that a back end of the defense has much to do with a 34 or a 43, but claiborne did not play in alabamas 34, he played in LSUs 43.

But he doesnt play in a classroom. On the field I've never heard him as being less than football intelligent. And to your example, how well has Peterson played in the NFL? He might be the best all-around CB in the game. Yep on the correction of LSU. My bad.

[K Train]

But he doesnt play in a classroom. On the field I've never heard him as being less than football intelligent. And to your example, how well has Peterson played in the NFL? He might be the best all-around CB in the game. Yep on the correction of LSU. My bad.

I know this, thats why im saying its different for every player. Someone said "give me a 4.5 guy with average coverage techniques over these freakishly athletic guys"...i disagree, its a balance of both for sure but you have to get a handle on the players mental capacity, something we really cant do.

Patrick peterson is a stud...Mo Claiborne is not. Both are dumb guys but peterson has become one of the best CBs in the game but relying on his physical attributes and tightening up his game through the years. Claiborne has been inept at developing techniques and understanding the schematics of coverages, and hes not nearly as physically gifted as peterson

He wouldnt help us this year, but he could potentially still be good under the right circumstances, hes just not going to be an overnight career ressurection. BW Webb might end up being a sneaky good pickup

[Shawn]

No on Morris Claiborne for a second or third? I think the risk/reward would be worth it. But hey....let's take a look at what you would rather have. Where do you suggest they get that guy? He's not currently on the roster who is pegged to replace Ike.

Claiborne excelled in Saban's 3-4 at Alabama. Dont remember anyone questioning his smarts or character then.

You don't know that. If our current crew proves to be unworthy of stepping up, we draft one. This may be a blessing in disguise. Lets say Blake or other current roster DB steps up and proves they can be a excellent player at this level. Well you just saved yourself the need to draft a first or second round DB. I would rather know now then not know going into the draft.

[Shawn]

I know this, thats why im saying its different for every player. Someone said "give me a 4.5 guy with average coverage techniques over these freakishly athletic guys"...i disagree, its a balance of both for sure but you have to get a handle on the players mental capacity, something we really cant do.

Patrick peterson is a stud...Mo Claiborne is not. Both are dumb guys but peterson has become one of the best CBs in the game but relying on his physical attributes and tightening up his game through the years. Claiborne has been inept at developing techniques and understanding the schematics of coverages, and hes not nearly as physically gifted as peterson

He wouldnt help us this year, but he could potentially still be good under the right circumstances, hes just not going to be an overnight career ressurection. BW Webb might end up being a sneaky good pickup

Would you rather have Deshea Townsend or a Pac Man Jones?

[RShazier50]

No thank you. We are seeing in Cleveland what happens to these guys who are merely athletic...ie Gilbert. Give me a guy who runs a 4.5 with average cover skills but has the ability to diagnose plays...and plays smart...over the guy who is a freak athlete without a stone in his head.

That was what Ike started out as. He was a raw project with size and blazing speed.

He turned himself into a good corner. If he had just hung on to half the balls he put his hands on he would be considered a great.

[steelerkeylargo]

I wouldn't give more than a 5th/conditional 4 for Claiborne. I'd rather bring in Champ Bailey for veteran minimum

[squidkid]

we dont need cb's

[Dee Dub]

I wouldn't give more than a 5th/conditional 4 for Claiborne. I'd rather bring in Champ Bailey for veteran minimum

That's not a bad suggestion. I'd kick that around.