D: We can complain, but if we could figure it out, they would have done so long ago

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  • SanAntonioSteelerFan
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    • May 2008
    • 8361

    D: We can complain, but if we could figure it out, they would have done so long ago

    From a bottom line point of view, the D sux - we can't keep other teams from scoring. Enough said.

    On a more granular level, I don't think anybody disagrees that the defensive talent on the field is way below the line. Breaking that down a bit:
    1) The young guys are below the line because they don't have enough experience to play at any other level;
    2) The old guys are below the line because they ... are old;
    3) All the other defensive guys pretty much suck because in the grand scheme of things they were never destined to have the talent to excel on an NFL field.

    The real question in my mind is, could another defensive coordinator get better results from this crew? Restated - is LeBeau too fossilized to change his scheme, even though a different one might make lots better use of the players we have on the roster, with consequent improved results in the W/L column?

    Or maybe it's not on the DC ... for all we know, they try different things during practice during the week, and the defensive schemes we see on Sunday are what they all have agreed is the "least bad option" given the limited talent they have. Maybe DL's game plans are really the best we have to offer?

    And really, how does anyone know how to answer that? If "press coverage" were the answer, wouldn't they have implemented that long ago? Or, returning to Blitzburgh? Or ... or ... or? IMHO it really boils down to whether DL is doing the best he can with the personnel he's got, and it's hard for anyone to know the answer to that (not excepting the wise sages that comprise the posters on Planet Steelers!). In the end the only person who matters (Rooney) thinks no one else available could do a better job than DL is doing, so that's really the bottom line, isn't it ...

    What would make me feel better:
    1) New scouts, personnel managers. There has to be some accountability for the horrible outcome of the last few years of draft picks. Could we do worse than we have been doing? Heck, even the Browns look like they might draft better than we do!
    2) Some evidence, a sign (any sign!) that we have the ability to make in-game defensive adjustments. If we're getting gashed with Defensive Plan A in the first half, do we have to stick with it in the second half?

    Dang, sorry for the long post!


    We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

    HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
  • K Train
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2014
    • 3685

    #2
    Originally posted by SanAntonioSteelerFan
    From a bottom line point of view, the D sux - we can't keep other teams from scoring. Enough said.

    On a more granular level, I don't think anybody disagrees that the defensive talent on the field is way below the line. Breaking that down a bit:
    1) The young guys are below the line because they don't have enough experience to play at any other level;
    2) The old guys are below the line because they ... are old;
    3) All the other defensive guys pretty much suck because in the grand scheme of things they were never destined to have the talent to excel on an NFL field.

    The real question in my mind is, could another defensive coordinator get better results from this crew? Restated - is LeBeau too fossilized to change his scheme, even though a different one might make lots better use of the players we have on the roster, with consequent improved results in the W/L column?

    Or maybe it's not on the DC ... for all we know, they try different things during practice during the week, and the defensive schemes we see on Sunday are what they all have agreed is the "least bad option" given the limited talent they have. Maybe DL's game plans are really the best we have to offer?

    And really, how does anyone know how to answer that? If "press coverage" were the answer, wouldn't they have implemented that long ago? Or, returning to Blitzburgh? Or ... or ... or? IMHO it really boils down to whether DL is doing the best he can with the personnel he's got, and it's hard for anyone to know the answer to that (not excepting the wise sages that comprise the posters on Planet Steelers!). In the end the only person who matters (Rooney) thinks no one else available could do a better job than DL is doing, so that's really the bottom line, isn't it ...

    What would make me feel better:
    1) New scouts, personnel managers. There has to be some accountability for the horrible outcome of the last few years of draft picks. Could we do worse than we have been doing? Heck, even the Browns look like they might draft better than we do!
    2) Some evidence, a sign (any sign!) that we have the ability to make in-game defensive adjustments. If we're getting gashed with Defensive Plan A in the first half, do we have to stick with it in the second half?


    Dang, sorry for the long post!
    lol this massive assumption that nothing has changed in the scheme is hilarious. Not a single person is watching the new scheme, just seeing ineffectiveness so far and assuming they are too stubborn to make adjustments

    The drafts have been fine 08 and 09 were bad and held them up a bit but even some of those players ended up being good elsewhere. This team was loaded back then, most of the team was in its prime and were right in the middle of two superbowl runs. Not many roster spot available. Since then the drafts have been pretty good, its not exactly going out on a limb saying the browns have drafted better....theyve had higher, and more first round picks

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