Impressions from the Philadelphia Debacle

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  • phillyesq
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 7568

    Impressions from the Philadelphia Debacle

    I was fortunate enough to have a friend of mine with season tickets invite me to tonight's game. Upon meeting him, he lets me know that we aren't using his seats, but are instead using his firm's seats - directly on the 50 yard line and 11 rows back on the Steelers' sideline. Suddenly, a change in career paths seems appealing.

    A few random observations:

    - Joey Porter is insanely intense, even as a coach. He's almost always lined up directly on the LOS to watch the play.

    - Justin Brown stinks. He gets no separation and, despite his size, does nothing as a blocker.

    - The Steelers need to be more creative with Dri Archer. They can't just throw bubble screens and picks to him. He did run one legit route, but the Eagles were in his face and all over the short stuff. Haley will need to be more creative.

    - After the first Mark Sanchez TD drive, Joey Porter was the first to light into the defense. Then, DL started to assemble the entire D, and Troy screamed at everybody. I've never seen Troy get that fired up. His anger continued to show when he drilled the rb for a 5 yard loss on the next series, but apparently, he is the only one with any pride.

    - After the second Sanchez TD drive (WTF!?) Shazier and Mitchell got into a big yelling match. Porter separated the two and tried to cool Mitchell down.

    - I'm not a fan of Mitchell thus far. Reminds me of Anthony Smith. Obnoxious and chippy but without the play to back it up.

    - I wanted to like Brad Wing, but he stinks. The Johnny Football of punters. After one of his terrible punts, he immediately started making excuses to the special teams coach, seemingly trying to explain somebody about the snap. However, even in warm-ups before the second half, while he boomed a few, he also added a few more shanks.

    - DHB continually got separation. Sure, he is a body catcher, but he gets separation, can block and is a good ST player. I'd take him over Justin Brown for the 5th WR and it isn't close.

    - The starting offensive line sat together as a unit on the bench, often lined up from left to right. I like the cohesiveness.

    - Mauro had his shoulder wrapped - seems like he got banged up.
  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35651

    #2
    thanks philly for your up close perspective, sorry it wasn't a winning game for the Steelers.

    and you should definitely consider that career change...

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    • pfelix73
      Hall of Famer
      • Aug 2008
      • 3463

      #3
      I'm sure Haley has more plays for Dri, etc..... It's just a preseason game... Everyone (not you, philly, but many others on here) is getting all up tight over a freaking preseason game.

      Eagles have a very good team. Glad that the Steelers got to play against such a good team early on.....
      6- Time Super Bowl Champions......
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      • K Train
        Hall of Famer
        • Jan 2014
        • 3685

        #4
        Justin Brown blows.

        Antonio
        Wheaton
        Moore/DHB depending on the situation
        Archer

        Bryant doesnt dress

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        • BradshawsHairdresser
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 7056

          #5
          Originally posted by pfelix73
          I'm sure Haley has more plays for Dri, etc..... It's just a preseason game... Everyone (not you, philly, but many others on here) is getting all up tight over a freaking preseason game.
          It's the pattern I'm concerned about. The last couple of years, we've heard, "Relax, it's just a preseason game..." And then, the sloppy, unfocused performance has carried over into the regular season.

          Originally posted by pfelix73
          Eagles have a very good team. Glad that the Steelers got to play against such a good team early on.....
          Or was it the Steelers' poor performance, in part, that caused the Eagles to look so "good"?

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          • papillon
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 11340

            #6
            At this point, the Steelers didn't need to play a hungry and very good football team, they were manhandled and the tempers on the sideline show it. It's not like they lost to a Bill Walsh west coast, beat you with scheme football team, they were physically beaten by a better prepared, better conditioned, better physically football team.

            My question is this: What do you do in the 4th preseason game? Do the starters get anything to try and go into the regular season on a positive note? Or, do you limit the damage to the Eagles game and sit them? On one hand you want them to gain momentum, but you also run the risk of making things worse.

            Pappy
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            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

            "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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            • steelsnis
              Starter
              • Dec 2008
              • 980

              #7
              Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
              It's the pattern I'm concerned about. The last couple of years, we've heard, "Relax, it's just a preseason game..." And then, the sloppy, unfocused performance has carried over into the regular season.
              That's simply not true. Bad preseason (0-4) last year, 8-8 finish to regular season. Good preseason the prior year (3-1), 8-8 finish to regular season after losing 2 of first 3 games. Stop pretending preseason has anything to do with the regular year.

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              • NW Steeler
                Pro Bowler
                • Dec 2008
                • 1391

                #8
                Preseason or not, last night's game was concerning.

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                • K Train
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 3685

                  #9
                  I think you sit the experienced starters with the intentions of letting the young guys and rotational guys play a lot. Let Mccullers start the game, see how he holds up and let him earn some playing time. Let Tuitt Start, maybe just cut that pussy Cam Thomas.

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                  • Mick'sTeam
                    Backup
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 480

                    #10
                    Originally posted by papillon
                    At this point, the Steelers didn't need to play a hungry and very good football team, they were manhandled and the tempers on the sideline show it. It's not like they lost to a Bill Walsh west coast, beat you with scheme football team, they were physically beaten by a better prepared, better conditioned, better physically football team.

                    My question is this: What do you do in the 4th preseason game? Do the starters get anything to try and go into the regular season on a positive note? Or, do you limit the damage to the Eagles game and sit them? On one hand you want them to gain momentum, but you also run the risk of making things worse.

                    Pappy
                    No reason to do much with the starters in the 4th preseason game. Even if they play & perform, it won't be against the opponents # 1's, so nothing really to gain.

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27564

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NW Steeler
                      Preseason or not, last night's game was concerning.
                      I would be concerned if we played 8 Chip Kelly offenses...
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • Shawn
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15131

                        #12
                        Good post...accurate observations. I like the sentence about playing with pride. The Steelers no longer play with pride...no swagger...nothing intimidating. They are becoming very meh average. It makes me ill.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • papillon
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11340

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shawn
                          Good post...accurate observations. I like the sentence about playing with pride. The Steelers no longer play with pride...no swagger...nothing intimidating. They are becoming very meh average. It makes me ill.
                          Tough to watch your coach (Peezy) be the most intense guy on the field.

                          Pappy
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                          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                          • Shawn
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 15131

                            #14
                            Originally posted by papillon
                            Tough to watch your coach (Peezy) be the most intense guy on the field.

                            Pappy
                            Best observation of the day! Maybe of the offseason. Peezy is the most passionate guy on this team...and he is a coach. That should tell you something.
                            Trolls are people too.

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                            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 10287

                              #15
                              Originally posted by phillyesq
                              - The starting offensive line sat together as a unit on the bench, often lined up from left to right. I like the cohesiveness.
                              So, on the bench is the only place that they didn't let everybody run between them?
                              http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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