I still don't see the love affair for Cortez!

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  • Steelhere10
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3849

    I still don't see the love affair for Cortez!

    What am I missing that makes everyone feels they should extend him. He's always giving up plays and getting beat. Maybe it's the few TO that he causes or maybe he look bad because of all the 10 yard cushions, or even the fans think Kennan Lewis all over ,but if we continue to play that defense for him , maybe the Steelers would be better off waiting or just letting him walk. But I'm sorry I just don't see it.
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  • SidSmythe
    Hall of Famer
    • Sep 2008
    • 4708

    #2
    Not sure where you see him getting beat. The 10 yard curl maybe but that's the defense.
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    • Steelhere10
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3849

      #3
      Originally posted by SidSmythe
      Not sure where you see him getting beat. The 10 yard curl maybe but that's the defense.
      Do you think he should get extended?
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      • Eddie Spaghetti
        Hall of Famer
        • Jul 2008
        • 4123

        #4
        I do.

        Has shown some flashes of decent play and there is literally nothing behind him. There are a lot worse CBs drawing paychecks

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        • LordVile
          Starter
          • Sep 2009
          • 834

          #5
          He's alright.. No one is saying to "BREAK THE BANK" on him... He dealt with injuries last year.. Let's see if he can live up to his potential this season and go from there.
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          • Ernie
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            • Aug 2013
            • 8470

            #6
            Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
            I do.

            Has shown some flashes of decent play and there is literally nothing behind him. There are a lot worse CBs drawing paychecks
            that's the key Eddie...that and the thought that Ike's days are numbered. If they had a few thoroughbreds behind him, it wouldn't be such a necessity.

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            • papillon
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 11340

              #7
              Originally posted by Ernie
              that's the key Eddie...that and the thought that Ike's days are numbered. If they had a few thoroughbreds behind him, it wouldn't be such a necessity.
              I'm really hoping that Richardson progresses well as the season goes along and he shows he can play. Allen is going to have a good year (hopefully) and then be retained at a "good" player's price.

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              The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
              5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
              7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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              • SidSmythe
                Hall of Famer
                • Sep 2008
                • 4708

                #8
                Allen might be a Deshea Townshend type of signing.
                He signed a modest contract and became a good CB for many years.
                Does Allen deserve a Keen an Lewis deal?? No way.... but again next year we might be in trouble if he walks.
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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35648

                  #9
                  Cortez Allen and Antwon Blake were the 2 lowest rated Steeler DBs against the Bills according to Pro Football Focus...

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                  • papillon
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 11340

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    Cortez Allen and Antwon Blake were the 2 lowest rated Steeler DBs against the Bills according to Pro Football Focus...
                    Yea, Allen got turned around a couple times, definitely not a good game for him, will Blake even make this team?

                    Pappy
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                    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                    "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                    • K Train
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 3685

                      #11
                      I dont think theres a love affair for him, I think people want their to be but hes very meh

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #12
                        Hearing the exact same negativity towards Allen that filled this board before Keenan Lewis' last season here. Anyone who wouldn't want Lewis back right now?

                        Allen and the rest of the DBs are going to have a very tough season with the new contact rules. However, that doesn't mean that they aren't worth keeping. It may drive down the asking price though.

                        I really don't know what kind of DB you should even have in the NFL now. Zone cover guy? Man to man match up guy? Longer term discussion, given the rules does it make sense to draft a DB in the first or second round of the draft at all? Regardless of how good their skill set, they won't be able to use it.
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                        • K Train
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 3685

                          #13
                          Keenan Lewis was a great fit for Rob Ryan, but he was pretty bad here for his tenure and they didnt play press man very often at all.

                          He didnt want to be here, he wasnt a great fit, and he was in tomlins dog house more often than not.

                          Cortez kept getting this "he'll be better than Ike" praise from everyone, including Ike and we have yet to see any of that

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                          • papillon
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 11340

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Hearing the exact same negativity towards Allen that filled this board before Keenan Lewis' last season here. Anyone who wouldn't want Lewis back right now?

                            Allen and the rest of the DBs are going to have a very tough season with the new contact rules. However, that doesn't mean that they aren't worth keeping. It may drive down the asking price though.

                            I really don't know what kind of DB you should even have in the NFL now. Zone cover guy? Man to man match up guy? Longer term discussion, given the rules does it make sense to draft a DB in the first or second round of the draft at all? Regardless of how good their skill set, they won't be able to use it.
                            Ovi, you may hate to hear this, but tackling the catch is going to be your best bet and force the offense to go 10-12 plays without making a mistake. Trying to play press coverage with the way they are officiating contact will simply move the ball down the field 5 yards or much more at a time and give the offense a 1st down, which is the most egregious aspect of the holding call. 3rd and 10, you call a 5 yard hold, but you bail the offense out with a first down, it's ludicrous.

                            Pappy
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                            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                            "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                            • Steelhere10
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 3849

                              #15
                              Do anyone actually think the refs are going to call it that tight like preseason is fooling themselves. The league would go under fast if they did, and you would see 5 hr. Games But with that said Ovi you are correct about drafting cb high.
                              Last edited by Steelhere10; 08-18-2014, 01:57 PM.
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