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  • fordfixer
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10922

    Win range

    [url]http://cover32.com/2014/08/08/team-by-team-the-likely-win-range-for-each-nfl-team-in-2014/2/[/url]

    win range for each NFL team in 2014By cover32 Staff
    August 08, 2014



    AFC NORTH


    Baltimore Ravens – If it weren’t for their history, where every season in the John Harbaugh era other than last year finished with a playoff berth, there’d be no reason to believe it was going to be a good season in Baltimore. They had more defections than additions during the offseason, while the Ray Rice situation has left a stain on the organization that will take some time to go away. It just feels like a down year in Baltimore, except for the fact that Harbaugh always finds a way to field a winner.
    Projected win range: 7-9


    Cincinnati Bengals – There are always a few teams who go from worst to first in the NFL, rebounds that get a lot of attention. That also means, however, that there are organizations who have the opposite kind of season, regressing from a team on the cusp to an also-ran, stories that tend to get ignored. This year, it’s beginning to feel a lot like the Bengals will be in the second group. They did little to improve during the offseason, providing a sense that they had their shot the past couple of years and blew it.
    Projected win range: 6-8


    Cleveland Browns – There is a ton of talent on the Browns roster, something that makes them an enticing dark-horse pick. But the quarterback situation is a little worrisome. Frankly, they’d be fine with either Brian Hoyer (who went 3-0 last year as the starter) or Johnny Manziel (who will be a fun player to watch); figuring out how to prevent the battle for the starting job from becoming a circus that derails the season is the key. If Mike Pettine can do that, the Browns could surprise some people.
    Projected win range: 7-9


    Pittsburgh Steelers – On offense, the Steelers have a two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, one of the league’s best young receivers and an upstart running back. And on the other side of the ball, they have what Pittsburgh always seems to have – a solid defense. So this just feels like the year in which they right the ship in the Steel City, getting back to the playoffs after a two-year absence. It’s hard to bet against head coach Mike Tomlin and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.
    Projected win range: 9-11.

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  • papillon
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 11340

    #2
    Originally posted by fordfixer
    [URL]http://cover32.com/2014/08/08/team-by-team-the-likely-win-range-for-each-nfl-team-in-2014/2/[/URL]

    win range for each NFL team in 2014By cover32 Staff
    August 08, 2014



    AFC NORTH


    Baltimore Ravens – If it weren’t for their history, where every season in the John Harbaugh era other than last year finished with a playoff berth, there’d be no reason to believe it was going to be a good season in Baltimore. They had more defections than additions during the offseason, while the Ray Rice situation has left a stain on the organization that will take some time to go away. It just feels like a down year in Baltimore, except for the fact that Harbaugh always finds a way to field a winner.
    Projected win range: 7-9


    Cincinnati Bengals – There are always a few teams who go from worst to first in the NFL, rebounds that get a lot of attention. That also means, however, that there are organizations who have the opposite kind of season, regressing from a team on the cusp to an also-ran, stories that tend to get ignored. This year, it’s beginning to feel a lot like the Bengals will be in the second group. They did little to improve during the offseason, providing a sense that they had their shot the past couple of years and blew it.
    Projected win range: 6-8


    Cleveland Browns – There is a ton of talent on the Browns roster, something that makes them an enticing dark-horse pick. But the quarterback situation is a little worrisome. Frankly, they’d be fine with either Brian Hoyer (who went 3-0 last year as the starter) or Johnny Manziel (who will be a fun player to watch); figuring out how to prevent the battle for the starting job from becoming a circus that derails the season is the key. If Mike Pettine can do that, the Browns could surprise some people.
    Projected win range: 7-9


    Pittsburgh Steelers – On offense, the Steelers have a two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, one of the league’s best young receivers and an upstart running back. And on the other side of the ball, they have what Pittsburgh always seems to have – a solid defense. So this just feels like the year in which they right the ship in the Steel City, getting back to the playoffs after a two-year absence. It’s hard to bet against head coach Mike Tomlin and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.
    Projected win range: 9-11.
    I'm wondering on what he is basing his "solid defense" comment? There are going to be a couple rookies seeing a lot of action, a player that is returning after a two year hiatus and a corner back crew that probably isn't terrifying Tom Brady, Andrew Luck, or any other competent quarterback. We're all hoping for a solid defense, but until the young guys get into a game with live bullets flying it remains an unknown.

    It's always nice to know that D1ck Lebeau is there directing the unit.

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    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

    "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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    • K Train
      Hall of Famer
      • Jan 2014
      • 3685

      #3
      I think the defense will be solid for sure....it has the chance to be very good though.

      The steelers arent THAT far removed from a top 5 defense. They have addressed a few of the weak spots. Rookies can make a difference, we are just used to them not. If Tuitt and Shazier play well they could be a special group.

      While the CBs might not "scare" anyone, i wouldnt be surprised at all if they have a top 10 DL, a top 5 safety due, and a top 5 LB corps...which is plenty to put together a good unit

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27532

        #4
        Originally posted by K Train
        I think the defense will be solid for sure....it has the chance to be very good though.

        The steelers arent THAT far removed from a top 5 defense. They have addressed a few of the weak spots. Rookies can make a difference, we are just used to them not. If Tuitt and Shazier play well they could be a special group.

        While the CBs might not "scare" anyone, i wouldnt be surprised at all if they have a top 10 DL, a top 5 safety due, and a top 5 LB corps...which is plenty to put together a good unit
        We are that far removed...

        I hope we are top 10 but it's a totally different D IMO and they have yet to prove they have this scheme figured out. The 73 yarder on the first play looked just like last year
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • K Train
          Hall of Famer
          • Jan 2014
          • 3685

          #5
          2012? #1 overall, #1 pass, and #2 rushing?

          Again, they addressed the weaknesses. DOnt know what else can be done besides realizing where you are weakest and correcting it

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27532

            #6
            Originally posted by K Train
            2012? #1 overall, #1 pass, and #2 rushing?

            Again, they addressed the weaknesses. DOnt know what else can be done besides realizing where you are weakest and correcting it
            The D in 2012:

            Casey
            Keisel
            Wodley
            Foote
            Harrison
            Lewis
            Clark

            We have addressed our weaknesses but we have no idea if the holes have been corrected.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • K Train
              Hall of Famer
              • Jan 2014
              • 3685

              #7
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              The D in 2012:

              Casey
              Keisel
              Wodley
              Foote
              Harrison
              Lewis
              Clark

              We have addressed our weaknesses but we have no idea if the holes have been corrected.
              Casey was a shell of himself that year....his burst off the snap was no where near where it was the few years before

              Keisel should be brought back.

              Linebackers have obviously been addressed, im excited about the current group.

              Lewis was no where even close to as good as he was last year when he was with us....he thrived in the press man last season

              I cannot see how Mitchell isnt an upgrade from Clark, and clark had a great year in 2012 despite being horrid in 13.

              All i am saying is optimism is warranted given the draft, FA, and the current state of the offense. Lebeau has turned different rosters into top 5 defense before. Back in 05 casey hampton was the only guy on that list on the roster and they had the #4 defense

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27532

                #8
                Originally posted by K Train
                Casey was a shell of himself that year....his burst off the snap was no where near where it was the few years before

                Keisel should be brought back.

                Linebackers have obviously been addressed, im excited about the current group.

                Lewis was no where even close to as good as he was last year when he was with us....he thrived in the press man last season

                I cannot see how Mitchell isnt an upgrade from Clark, and clark had a great year in 2012 despite being horrid in 13.

                All i am saying is optimism is warranted given the draft, FA, and the current state of the offense. Lebeau has turned different rosters into top 5 defense before. Back in 05 casey hampton was the only guy on that list on the roster and they had the #4 defense
                I'm cautiously optimistic... lol.

                I think we addressed our needs but we have no idea if they will be ready this year.
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • SidSmythe
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 4708

                  #9
                  It didn't say Great Defense ... it said "Solid" ... that means with a good offense they can hold their own.
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                  • papillon
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 11340

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SidSmythe
                    It didn't say Great Defense ... it said "Solid" ... that means with a good offense they can hold their own.
                    And, with a "solid" defense they put the Steeler win range at 9-11, to me a solid defense and a great offense give you 8-10 at best, not even sure the offense can be called great at this point. It looks like all the pieces are there, but until they're averaging 26/27 or more points per game, it's only a good offense. That along with a solid defense wouldn't warrant 9-11 win prediction in my opinion, I would say 7-9, maybe 10. I wouldn't have thought twice about the solid defense comment had the win range been lower. I don't think solid gets you over .500, solid is the definition of a .500 team more or less.

                    Pappy
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                    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                    "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                    • K Train
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 3685

                      #11
                      31.75 ppg over the last 8 is a nice start to getting that

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                      • DBR96A
                        Backup
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 469

                        #12
                        The defense this season will have a similar trajectory to the offense last season: struggling early, but coming together as the season progresses. This is why I say the Steelers will finish 10-6.
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                        • papillon
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11340

                          #13
                          Originally posted by K Train
                          31.75 ppg over the last 8 is a nice start to getting that
                          Yup and when the Browns show up and the Steelers hang 32 on them, I'll begin to believe it a bit more. The RZ issues still worry me. I wonder what their RZ percentage was over the last 8 games? I'm guessing it had to be better than the first 8.

                          Pappy
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                          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            #14
                            Somewhere between 0 and 16...
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • hawaiiansteel
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 35648

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              Somewhere between 0 and 16...
                              somewhere between 8 and 19...

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