Ray Rice gets a joke of a suspension

[papillon]

It isnt... but if you look up the GA story it reminds us that Ben was incredibly stupid for taking a college aged chick into a utility closet.

Ben admitted sexual contact and said the girl fell and bumped her head in the closet. It really isnt a good idea to point back to Milledgeville as some proof Ben was railroaded.

28 and bar hopping in a college town AFTER fighting off a false rape charge is the reason the Rooneys wanted Goodell to send a message.

IMO, Ben's events are completely independent of Rice's and, as such, what happened to Ben, happened to Ben, for the most part it was his own doing. Taken as an independent event the Rice situation IMO warrants a stiffer penalty than a two game suspension. Rice should have to do community service at a shelter for battered women, counseling, and should have received more than two games. Every woman I've spoken to since the suspension was handed down is appalled, regardless of whether they are Ravens' fans, Steelers' fans or fans of any other team.

Ben's events are Ben's events and it was dealt with, you can't use those events to determine the penalty in the Rice case. It just feels like it should have been a harsher punishment to me, that's all.

Pappy

[hawaiiansteel]

Roger Goodell defends Ray Rice's two-game suspension

Lorenzo Reyes, USA TODAY
August 1, 2014

For the first time since the NFL announced a two-game suspension for Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice, commissioner Roger Goodell addressed the ban and said it was "consistent with other cases."

"Our policy is clear on this case," Goodell told reporters Friday in Canton, Ohio, as part of the Pro Football Hall of Fame festivities. "We have a very firm policy on domestic violence and it is not acceptable in the NFL. He obviously went through the process of evaluating the issue. You look at all of that to determine how that individual is reacting to it. I think what's important here is that Ray is being accountable for it. He recognizes he made a horrible mistake and he knows what he did is unacceptable by his standards and by our standards.

"I was also very impressed with Ray in the sense that Ray is not only accepting this issue but he's saying, 'I was wrong.' I want to see people, when they make a mistake, I want to see them take responsibility and be accountable for it."

Rice received the suspension and will lose three game checks for a February incident at an Atlantic City hotel in which he was charged with aggravated assault against his then-fiancée. Security cameras caught Rice pulling an apparently unconscious Janay Rice (nee Palmer) out of an elevator.

The couple has since married. Rice avoided a trial by entering a pre-trial diversion program in May.

Reaction to news of the suspension, announced July 24, has been mostly negative.

Goodell said Rice's previous history was taken into account when determining the length of the discipline.

"Ray Rice did not have another incident," Goodell said. "There were other cases, and we take them into account. We have to remain consistent. We can't just make up the discipline. It has to be consistent with other cases and it was consistent with other cases.

"In this case, there was no discipline by the criminal justice system, he was put into a diversionary program."

Much of the criticism hurled at the NFL has centered on the apparent discrepancy between suspensions that result from violations of the league's drug policy, versus those incurred through the code of personal conduct.

"When we have a drug program that is collectively bargained, it takes four incidents before you actually reach a suspension," Goodell said.

Though he held a press conference in May, Rice faced questions about the incident for the first time Thursday at Ravens training camp and showed contrition, saying he "made the biggest mistake" of his life.

The Ravens coaching staff and front office has expressed support for Rice throughout the process. Rice is allowed to practice with the team during training and play in the preseason.

"We're very confident that this young man understands what he did and will move forward," Goodell said.

[URL]http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/08/01/roger-goodell-ray-rice-suspension-baltimore-ravens/13468921/[/URL]

[fezziwig]

Thanks Fez, I'll never forget when she called me to tell me she was "going home" to try and fix Aliquippa.

She touched a lot of lives.She recruited Darelle Revis to volunteer to help her clean and reopen the swimming pool in Aliquippa.

In some weird way I think she died because she lived a full life and it was her time to go. I'm just happy I got to see her and hug her that weekend before the accident happened. I came home specifially to spend time with her because I was going to spend christmas with my wifes family.

The last time I saw her she said "give me a hug, a real hug, who knows when I will see you again"

I gave her a hug and a kiss and 2 days later....

Wow ! thank for sharing.

[birtikidis]

Can't just make up discipline eh Rog? Any other bs you want to send our way while you're at it?

[sick beats]

Thanks Fez, I'll never forget when she called me to tell me she was "going home" to try and fix Aliquippa.

She touched a lot of lives.She recruited Darelle Revis to volunteer to help her clean and reopen the swimming pool in Aliquippa.

In some weird way I think she died because she lived a full life and it was her time to go. I'm just happy I got to see her and hug her that weekend before the accident happened. I came home specifially to spend time with her because I was going to spend christmas with my wifes family.

The last time I saw her she said "give me a hug, a real hug, who knows when I will see you again"

I gave her a hug and a kiss and 2 days later....

I was gonna say something about God often taking the best ones earlier. It's like, "Oh, you got all this. You don't need to learn anything more." Amazing woman. Just imagine this planet if we had a lot more of those kind of people.

[RuthlessBurgher]

The last time I saw her she said "give me a hug, a real hug, who knows when I will see you again"

I gave her a hug and a kiss and 2 days later....

Wow...prescient.

[RuthlessBurgher]

"We can't just make up the discipline."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

[Slapstick]

Considering how inconsistent and all over the map Rog has been with his other disciplinary actions, then, yes, Rice's suspension is technically consistent...

[fezziwig]

So its agreed, Goodell is consistently inconsistent

[feltdizz]

IMO, Ben's events are completely independent of Rice's and, as such, what happened to Ben, happened to Ben, for the most part it was his own doing. Taken as an independent event the Rice situation IMO warrants a stiffer penalty than a two game suspension. Rice should have to do community service at a shelter for battered women, counseling, and should have received more than two games. Every woman I've spoken to since the suspension was handed down is appalled, regardless of whether they are Ravens' fans, Steelers' fans or fans of any other team.

Ben's events are Ben's events and it was dealt with, you can't use those events to determine the penalty in the Rice case. It just feels like it should have been a harsher punishment to me, that's all.

Pappy

Based on all the domestic violence in the NFL I didnt think he would even get a suspension....

Rice was caught on tape so its being treated like its the first time its ever happened to an NFL player.

I'm pretty sure domestic violence and assaults on women have been going on for a long time.

JH slapped his baby mother and how many games did we demand? How upset were we and how long did it last?

[papillon]

Based on all the domestic violence in the NFL I didnt think he would even get a suspension....

Rice was caught on tape so its being treated like its the first time its ever happened to an NFL player.

I'm pretty sure domestic violence and assaults on women have been going on for a long time.

JH slapped his baby mother and how many games did we demand? How upset were we and how long did it last?

I don't remember if I was angry or not, I'm certain that I was disappointed, because JH is one of my all-time favorites. With the Rice case we actually got to see the aftermath and his wife being dragged out of the elevator. I think that has a lot to do with the anger being displayed by males and females alike. Had people seen JH's girlfriend/wife unconscious or beaten there would have been more out rage. Rice's biggest problems are coming because people actually have seen her unconscious.

Pappy

[feltdizz]

I don't remember if I was angry or not, I'm certain that I was disappointed, because JH is one of my all-time favorites. With the Rice case we actually got to see the aftermath and his wife being dragged out of the elevator. I think that has a lot to do with the anger being displayed by males and females alike. Had people seen JH's girlfriend/wife unconscious or beaten there would have been more out rage. Rice's biggest problems are coming because people actually have seen her unconscious.

Pappy

I agree...