Ray Rice gets a joke of a suspension

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  • K Train
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2014
    • 3685

    #31
    Originally posted by Ghost
    The whole Pink thing the NFL does is a total sham. They do it as an additional revenue stream with cancer research an almost forgotten side effect.

    In the end, after everybody has taken their cut, only 8.01% of money spent on pink NFL merchandise is actually going towards cancer research.

    Read more: [URL]http://www.businessinsider.com/small-amount-of-money-from-pink-nfl-merchandise-goes-to-breast-cancer-research-2013-10#ixzz38PcD73wh[/URL]
    I just thought it was a good quote given the circumstances

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27532

      #32
      Originally posted by Ghost
      The whole Pink thing the NFL does is a total sham. They do it as an additional revenue stream with cancer research an almost forgotten side effect.

      In the end, after everybody has taken their cut, only 8.01% of money spent on pink NFL merchandise is actually going towards cancer research.

      Read more: [URL]http://www.businessinsider.com/small-amount-of-money-from-pink-nfl-merchandise-goes-to-breast-cancer-research-2013-10#ixzz38PcD73wh[/URL]
      by law you only have to give 5%..???

      I'm asking, I have no idea if it's true.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35648

        #33
        Originally posted by Ghost

        Good thing he didn't kill her, he might have gotten a 3 game suspension...
        don't exaggerate.

        Ray Rice would have surely received a 4 game suspension if he had killed her...

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        • K Train
          Hall of Famer
          • Jan 2014
          • 3685

          #34
          Originally posted by Ghost
          The whole Pink thing the NFL does is a total sham. They do it as an additional revenue stream with cancer research an almost forgotten side effect.

          In the end, after everybody has taken their cut, only 8.01% of money spent on pink NFL merchandise is actually going towards cancer research.

          Read more: [URL]http://www.businessinsider.com/small-amount-of-money-from-pink-nfl-merchandise-goes-to-breast-cancer-research-2013-10#ixzz38PcD73wh[/URL]
          Also, a couple extra million dollars is nothing to scoff at when its free money for cancer research. Could the NFL donate more? Sure they could but they could not slap a pink ribbon on every product they have and still make $8.8 billion a year in merchandise sales

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          • sick beats
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2013
            • 2144

            #35
            Originally posted by Flasteel
            I believe 100% that the severity of Ben's suspension was primarily the result of two factors.
            1. He is a high-profile quarterback
            2. He is white

            The fact that there were two unsubstantiated allegations levied against him in a relatively short period of time surely influenced Goodell's thinking as well, but I believe it runs a distant 3rd in the decision-making process. This was his chance to show the world that he wasn't going to show preferential treatment to a white guy or star quarterback.

            If true, 2 games for Ray Rice is shameful.
            I actually think Ben got hit harder because he had a track record of being a total pig, for a long time, and even after his suit in CO (even if it was BS), he clearly wasn't flying any more straight. The "investigation" found that Ben had a very lurid track record. He was known of being very piggish, and skipping on bar tabs and the Rooneys were embarrassed and felt sullied by Ben's act. The severity of his punishment may have even been sought by the team. They were red-hot angry over Ben acting in such a horrid manner.

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            • Ghost
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 6338

              #36
              Originally posted by K Train
              I just thought it was a good quote given the circumstances
              Absolutely. It made me laugh!
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              • Flasteel
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 4004

                #37
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                LOL... that doesn't make any damn sense and you know it.
                Other than this particular case, I don't believe I've ever pulled the race card on this forum or the trib. My opinion is not some knee-jerk response, nor is it the product of some warped anti-whitey agenda I believe exists.

                To me the thinking behind Goodell's decision-making is pretty plain to see. How else can you explain the punishment dished out to Roethlisberger...especially in light of every other instance of player discipline he has handed down.

                Roethlisberger's case remains the lone example of a player being disciplined with no arrest or charges. He had no prior history of legal trouble or allegations of inappropriate behavior (aside from perhaps being boorish). Yet he was suspended 3 times longer than Ray Rice. I would be interested in your thoughts on any other possible reasons.

                The only white quarterbacks ever suspended by the NFL other than Ben have been Art Schlichter (1 year in 1983 and lifetime in 1986 for gambling) and Frank Filchock (lifetime for fixing the 1946 NFL Championship game). As a matter of fact, until Roethlisberger, no white player at any position was suspended by the NFL since Schlichter. In that time period between the two QBs, there were 14 other player suspensions...all involving black players. Goodell was responsible for 12 of those 14 suspensions and there was a wide-spread belief that he and the league were targeting black players because of those skewed numbers.

                If you don't think that Goodell looked at Roethlisberger as a prime opportunity to show everyone that he could come down hard on a white player...especially a star quarterback, then I would question the amount of thought you have dedicated to the question.

                My opinion is 100% speculation, but it none-the-less remains the most plausible explanation for such a ridiculous discrepancy...easily. To say this explanation makes no sense is equally ridiculous. Again, I am interested to hear your thoughts on how Roethlisberger got the hammer and Rice got the pillow.
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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #38
                  I am interested to hear your thoughts on how Roethlisberger got the hammer and Rice got the pillow.
                  Actually, Rice's fiance got the hammer in Atlantic City, and Ben's concierge got the pillow in Lake Tahoe.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • buccoray61
                    Starter
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 945

                    #39
                    I imagine Rice thought he was going to get four games. After getting only two games.he's probably mad,now knowing he could have beat her up again.

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                    • steelz09
                      Administrator
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 4675

                      #40
                      If Ray Rice was white and had a Polish or Italian last name, he surely would have received a 4 game suspension.
                      Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                      • DukieBoy
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3488

                        #41
                        Originally posted by legend of polamalu
                        Roger strikes again...2 games for knocking his girlfriend out cold and dragging her through an elevator out
                        into the hotel lobby.

                        Slap on the wrist.

                        Ben got what 6 games? For not breaking any laws!!!!

                        And I'll guess she suffered a concussion, too. Two games for intentionally knocking a girl out cold and probably causing a concussion! C'mon Man!





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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35648

                          #42
                          Originally posted by steelz09
                          If Rice was white
                          I thought rice was white?


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                          • papillon
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 11340

                            #43
                            Regardless of what other players have been assessed as punishment for crimes against the NFL, recreational drug use, performance enhancing drugs, accusations of sexual misconduct, hitting other players too hard, etc. I think we can all agree that knocking another human being unconscious should have carried a bit stiffer penalty. To me, this a minimum of 8 games plus counseling and anger management. Two games and no attempt to educate him about how to conduct himself as a father, husband and son is rather light punishment.

                            Even if the Ravens lose the first two games the punishment isn't worth it, there's more at stake here than a couple football games. I'm not sure how women in general can support the NFL; Roger Goodell is basically saying we have little respect for the women of the NFL, fans, wives and girlfriends alike, sad really.

                            Pappy
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                            • steelz09
                              Administrator
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 4675

                              #44
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              I thought rice was white?



                              haha... nice work!
                              Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                                • Aug 2008
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                                #45
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