'Top 100 Players of 2014': Ben Roethlisberger #31

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  • Sugar
    Hall of Famer
    • Oct 2008
    • 3700

    'Top 100 Players of 2014': Ben Roethlisberger #31

    [URL]http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/videos/Top-100-Players-of-2014-Ben-Roethlisberger/28fe8ae2-44d9-4693-b4dc-451503008f2d[/URL]

    Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is voted the 31st-best player in the NFL by his peers on "Top 100 Players of 2014."
  • papillon
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 11340

    #2
    And, here's my statement to the players or coaches or whoever is ranking the players.

    Name the 30 players that have a bigger impact on a game than Ben. That will eliminate all but possibly a handful of players in the NFL and a handful might be too many.

    Brady
    Brees
    Rodgers
    Manning, P
    Manning, E
    Rivers

    Okay, that's all I got and those may or may not have a bigger impact than Ben. In my mind if any of the top 10 players listed aren't quarterbacks the list is wrong.

    Pappy
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    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

    "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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    • K Train
      Hall of Famer
      • Jan 2014
      • 3685

      #3
      Rivers? lol

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #4
        Originally posted by K Train
        Rivers? lol
        Eli's even funnier. He was downright AWFUL last year.
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 10281

          #5
          The funny part about this nonsense is that players have probably the worst perspective when it comes to rating other players. We could do a better job. Why? Because when we are at home watching 13 football games on a Sunday afternoon, what are players doing? They are busy at work. For those who think that they have a more valid opinion because they are always watching game film and they "know" the game, that is funny too. The film they are watching is not the game, it is in-depth highlights of their position opponent's tendencies. It is not like they sit down to watch a full game, and are studying every player on the field in order to determine who the best is.
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          • K Train
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2014
            • 3685

            #6
            Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            The funny part about this nonsense is that players have probably the worst perspective when it comes to rating other players. We could do a better job. Why? Because when we are at home watching 13 football games on a Sunday afternoon, what are players doing? They are busy at work. For those who think that they have a more valid opinion because they are always watching game film and they "know" the game, that is funny too. The film they are watching is not the game, it is in-depth highlights of their position opponent's tendencies. It is not like they sit down to watch a full game, and are studying every player on the field in order to determine who the best is.
            Im pretty sure they know fairly well when someone is doing their job or not.

            OTA praise about every rookie though, is common

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            • sick beats
              Pro Bowler
              • Dec 2013
              • 2144

              #7
              I think it's safe to say Ben will always be underrated. It's just how it is. And I don't really care, as it has nothing to do with us winning or losing. Eli Manning or Rivers should not be placed before him, though. Not now. That is loco.

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              • papillon
                Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 11340

                #8
                Originally posted by K Train
                Rivers? lol
                Exactly, that's my point, Rivers has been one compared to Ben, so I included him, take him off the list and you're down to a handful, remove Manning and it's 4, that's kind of my point. There aren't many, if any, impacting a game more than Ben, but he's 31st on the list.

                Pappy
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                The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                • papillon
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 11340

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  Eli's even funnier. He was downright AWFUL last year.
                  Yup, and that is my point, there's at the most 4 players that "could" have a bigger impact on a game than Ben and he shows up 31st. I included Rivers and Manning, because they are always tossed around in the same breath as Ben.

                  Pappy
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                  The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                  1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                  3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                  3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                  4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                  5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                  7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                  "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27531

                    #10
                    Originally posted by papillon
                    And, here's my statement to the players or coaches or whoever is ranking the players.

                    Name the 30 players that have a bigger impact on a game than Ben. That will eliminate all but possibly a handful of players in the NFL and a handful might be too many.

                    Brady
                    Brees
                    Rodgers
                    Manning, P
                    Manning, E
                    Rivers

                    Okay, that's all I got and those may or may not have a bigger impact than Ben. In my mind if any of the top 10 players listed aren't quarterbacks the list is wrong.

                    Pappy
                    nope... you are giving QB's all the glory because they touch the ball every play.

                    We just watched a SB where a defense controlled the game and beat down a QB who had an amazing year. Gotta give those defensive players props... especially when some of those defenders were responsible for our 8 losses.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27531

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sick beats
                      I think it's safe to say Ben will always be underrated. It's just how it is. And I don't really care, as it has nothing to do with us winning or losing. Eli Manning or Rivers should not be placed before him, though. Not now. That is loco.
                      Eli definitely shouldn't be placed anywhere above 99 for 2014.

                      While Ben is underrated I can't see how Ben in 2014 is top 10 based on the whole season. He finished strong but we were still 2-6 at the midway point.

                      I think some fans aren't grasping what the top 100 for 2014 means. This has nothing to do with who has the better career. No way Eli should be ahead of Ben based on 2014.
                      Last edited by feltdizz; 06-19-2014, 03:31 PM.
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • papillon
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 11340

                        #12
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        nope... you are giving QB's all the glory because they touch the ball every play.

                        We just watched a SB where a defense controlled the game and beat down a QB who had an amazing year. Gotta give those defensive players props... especially when some of those defenders were responsible for our 8 losses.
                        Yea, you're probably right about that and based on last year's performance it's probably a good place for Ben as well, even though I'd hate to see the Steeler record without Ben last year. Still, all in all, QBs are going to dominate the top of this kind of list.

                        Pappy
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                        The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                        1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                        3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                        3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                        4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                        5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                        7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                        "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                        • 8467thekraken
                          Starter
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 720

                          #13
                          why do people think Eli will even be on this list?

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