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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27568

    #16
    Originally posted by Slapstick
    The NFL Advisory Committee told Landry Jones that he had a first round grade a year before he came out...
    He reminds me of Matt Barkley... both these guys stayed a year too long and their last year exposed all of their flaws.
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    • Slapstick
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      • May 2008
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      #17
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      He reminds me of Matt Barkley... both these guys stayed a year too long and their last year exposed all of their flaws.
      I think Barkley received the same info from the committee...
      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
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        #18
        Originally posted by Slapstick
        I think Barkley received the same info from the committee...
        Anyone who followed college ball would have said the same thing.
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        • Captain Lemming
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          • Jun 2008
          • 16063

          #19
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          Anyone who followed college ball would have said the same thing.
          True, the good news about our guy is that one can legitimately explain his lower productivity to his coming off injury as opposed to it being that his flaws were revealed.

          Not that it matters but you notice that nobody we have ever drafted LOOKS the part of 3/4 DE like he does.

          Smith and Keisel were Lankier and got bigger, Ziggy and Heyward look like 4/3 tackles to me for some reason.

          This dude looks the part.
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          • Oviedo
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            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #20
            I think we got a great choice in Tuitt. I'm just thrilled we didn't take his teammate Nix instead. Tuitt will be a more solid performer long term.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • Oviedo
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              • May 2008
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              #21
              Originally posted by SteelCrazy
              I doubt we see much of Shark
              I would really question why we gave up a third round pick to get him if he can't get on the field in 2014. Doesn't seem like a smart move in retrospect.
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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
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                #22
                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                True, the good news about our guy is that one can legitimately explain his lower productivity to his coming off injury as opposed to it being that his flaws were revealed.

                Not that it matters but you notice that nobody we have ever drafted LOOKS the part of 3/4 DE like he does.
                Smith and Keisel were Lankier and got bigger, Ziggy and Heyward look like 4/3 tackles to me for some reason
                This dude looks the part.
                and also remember Nix was injured last year as well.
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                • Slapstick
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                  • May 2008
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  I would really question why we gave up a third round pick to get him if he can't get on the field in 2014. Doesn't seem like a smart move in retrospect.
                  It's up to the player to get himself on the field...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
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                    • May 2008
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    I would really question why we gave up a third round pick to get him if he can't get on the field in 2014. Doesn't seem like a smart move in retrospect.
                    The pick that we traded to Cleveland to get Shamarko last year was ultimately traded to Houston and used to draft Nix. If we hadn't made that trade last year, we could have had both Tuitt as well as Nix.
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • phillyesq
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                      • May 2008
                      • 7568

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      True, the good news about our guy is that one can legitimately explain his lower productivity to his coming off injury as opposed to it being that his flaws were revealed.

                      Not that it matters but you notice that nobody we have ever drafted LOOKS the part of 3/4 DE like he does.

                      Smith and Keisel were Lankier and got bigger, Ziggy and Heyward look like 4/3 tackles to me for some reason.

                      This dude looks the part.
                      I agree that Ziggy always looked like a 4-3 DT, but I thought that Heyward looked the part.

                      In any event, I'm excited about Tuitt, but guardedly so. On paper, he seems like the perfect fit, and I'm pretty excited about the prospects of Tuitt/Heyward at DE for the foreseeable future. I'm only guardedly optimistic because it seems like such a perfect fit - I'm afraid that there is something out there that I'm missing.

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                      • phillyesq
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                        • May 2008
                        • 7568

                        #26
                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        The pick that we traded to Cleveland to get Shamarko last year was ultimately traded to Houston and used to draft Nix. If we hadn't made that trade last year, we could have had both Tuitt as well as Nix.
                        A lot of interesting names went between there and Dri Archer, including:

                        - Nix
                        - Phillip Gaines
                        - Will Clarke
                        - Donte Moncrief

                        Nix and Tuitt would have been a great haul, really adding some beef in addition to the speed. In any event, I'm happy with Tuitt and it will be interesting to see how all of these careers play out.

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                        • flippy
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                          • Dec 2008
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                          True, the good news about our guy is that one can legitimately explain his lower productivity to his coming off injury as opposed to it being that his flaws were revealed.

                          Not that it matters but you notice that nobody we have ever drafted LOOKS the part of 3/4 DE like he does.

                          Smith and Keisel were Lankier and got bigger, Ziggy and Heyward look like 4/3 tackles to me for some reason.

                          This dude looks the part.

                          I'm counting on Richard Seymour like production. Could we have 2 DEs on the roster that are better than Aaron Smith? I know...I'm way ahead of myself even
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                          • phillyesq
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                            • May 2008
                            • 7568

                            #28
                            Originally posted by flippy
                            I'm counting on Richard Seymour like production. Could we have 2 DEs on the roster that are better than Aaron Smith? I know...I'm way ahead of myself even
                            I'd be happy with one DE who is his equal.

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                            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                              • May 2008
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              I would really question why we gave up a third round pick to get him if he can't get on the field in 2014. Doesn't seem like a smart move in retrospect.
                              When Shark was drafted, Troy was coming off of another injury plagued 2012 season, in which he missed nine games. On top of that, he looked older and slower when he was on the field, and at his age you never know if that was due to injury, or if age is catching up. In 2013, Troy played, and started, all 16 games. He looked like his old (young) self in the process, playing all over the field, and being disruptive almost every game.

                              We needed to draft a SS when we did, it just has not worked out that he needs to see the field yet. Troy will determine when that happens.
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                              • Oviedo
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                                • May 2008
                                • 23824

                                #30
                                Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                                When Shark was drafted, Troy was coming off of another injury plagued 2012 season, in which he missed nine games. On top of that, he looked older and slower when he was on the field, and at his age you never know if that was due to injury, or if age is catching up. In 2013, Troy played, and started, all 16 games. He looked like his old (young) self in the process, playing all over the field, and being disruptive almost every game.

                                We needed to draft a SS when we did, it just has not worked out that he needs to see the field yet. Troy will determine when that happens.
                                I think more likely Thomas' free agency will decide that and not Troy. I could see Thomas walking without ever playing a significant role and the team lost a valuable 3rd round pick to get him on top of that.
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