This Draft was the culmination of the ineptitude of team Tomlin/Colbert.

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  • Chadman
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6537

    #16
    I've got no problem with people not liking the draft, or Tomlin & Colbert. I've only got a problem when people start telling us how right they are, and others are wrong, based on opinion. Everyone has opinions, all of them have some merit. Just deal with it.
    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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    • Shoe
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4044

      #17
      Originally posted by Rod Polamalu
      Though Tuitt's impact will be the lone considerable "bright spot" if you will. Don't get me wrong, Shazier and Zumwalt are good football players and could possibly be stars on another team,....but they do not fit this organization at all. Richardson,...solid as well,...but his "chemistry" with this particular organization is exceptionally low. Bryant and Archer,...ridiculous.

      Bottom line,....in 7 rounds they drafted one player that will be anything like the quality of the best best players we brought in before Tomlin arrived and we began drafting with a Quija Board a Magic 8 ball and Tomlin's and now Colberts ego's respectively.

      Will rep this team until death as i have since childhood. However, i absolutely loathe Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert.
      How do Shazier and Zumwalt "not fit this organization"? And what about Shaq Richardson "doesn't fit our organization"?

      Shazier is a fast, hard-hitting, son of a religious father. Zumwalt is a hell-bent, crazed, son-of-a-gun. Jack Lambert, Porter, Lloyd, Harrison, Olsavsky, Little, Nickerson... seems like another in a long line.
      I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35648

        #18
        Originally posted by Rod Polamalu
        i absolutely loathe Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert.
        is it possible that your dislike for Tomlin and Colbert could be clouding your judgement and biasing you against what seems like a very good draft for the Steelers?

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        • fordfixer
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 10922

          #19
          Originally posted by Chadman
          I've got no problem with people not liking the draft, or Tomlin & Colbert. I've only got a problem when people start telling us how right they are, and others are wrong, based on opinion. Everyone has opinions, all of them have some merit. Just deal with it.
          you could be right but on the other hand maybe your wrong

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          • SteelerOfDeVille
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 9069

            #20
            Originally posted by Rod Polamalu
            I would have been proactive. I would have traded up for Evans. (That kid has Hine's work ethic, heart and will with Plex's measurables) And used my remaining picks to land Tuitt, Pierre Desir, and Chris Borland.
            A trade up for Evans means u can't get Tuitt OR Borland (who was gone before our 3rd round comp pick).
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            • hawaiiansteel
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 35648

              #21
              Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
              A trade up for Evans means u can't get Tuitt OR Borland (who was gone before our 3rd round comp pick).
              what are you trying to do, introduce logic to this discussion?

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              • Rod Polamalu
                Backup
                • Nov 2013
                • 183

                #22
                So,..... three years from now when NO player of this draft class other than Tuitt is hardly relevant at all amongst their peers or exceptionally productive in terms of the standard of their position in regards to their aforementioned peers,.......who here will have the ballz to finally admit that this organization has been run into the ground regarding personnel since Coach Cowher retired ?

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Rod Polamalu
                  So,..... three years from now when NO player of this draft class other than Tuitt is hardly relevant at all amongst their peers or exceptionally productive in terms of the standard of their position in regards to their aforementioned peers,.......who here will have the ballz to finally admit that this organization has been run into the ground regarding personnel since Coach Cowher retired ?
                  I would have the "ballz"...but, I'm still waiting for an explanation regarding how Shazier, Richardson and Zumwalt don't "fit the organization"...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • Iron City Inc.
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 3237

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Rod Polamalu
                    I would have been proactive. I would have traded up for Evans. (That kid has Hine's work ethic, heart and will with Plex's measurables) And used my remaining picks to land Tuitt, Pierre Desir, and Chris Borland.
                    It would have taken 1500 on value chart to move to 7 more if you wanted to go to 6 to get Evans but we wont go there and with our one being worth 1050 we would have had to at least traded our second (value 450) so can you explain how YOU could get Evans and Tuitt without a 2nd round pick? Don't forget we can't trade our 3rd round comp pick valued at only apx 114.
                    Your statement just is not logical as the math does not add up.

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                      It would have taken 1500 on value chart to move to 7 more if you wanted to go to 6 to get Evans but we wont go there and with our one being worth 1050 we would have had to at least traded our second (value 450) so can you explain how YOU could get Evans and Tuitt without a 2nd round pick? Don't forget we can't trade our 3rd round comp pick valued at only apx 114.
                      Your statement just is not logical as the math does not add up.
                      We would have had to tap into the 2015 draft, like Buffalo did...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • papillon
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 11340

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        We would have had to tap into the 2015 draft, like Buffalo did...
                        And that isn't happening in Pittsburgh, unless, it's for the next franchise quarterback after Ben. A quarterback is the only reason to mortgage the future drafts and you better be certain the QB is can't miss.

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                        • thetruthteller
                          Backup
                          • May 2014
                          • 294

                          #27
                          I'm NOT Dogging Evans but, to me, as big and as tall as he is, to me, he was just too passive. Yes he had great numbers on a High volume offensive team, but down the stretch, when it matted most, Evans disappeared. To me, he reminds me a bit of another Texas product...Roy Williams. A great player in college with great numbers. But I could even see it way back then...Roy just didn't have that Moxie, that Grit that I want a PRIME WR to have.


                          I wish him well though. But I think in 2 years or 3 Max, all these...we should have traded whatever to get Evans posters here will be eating a huge Humble sandwich when it is all said and done.

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                          • Notleadpoisoned
                            Starter
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 554

                            #28
                            I only check in here from time to time in the offseason but I swear there's been at least 3 other versions of Rod Polamalu on this forum. Same schtick, different screen name.

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #29
                              Originally posted by thetruthteller
                              I'm NOT Dogging Evans but, to me, as big and as tall as he is, to me, he was just too passive. Yes he had great numbers on a High volume offensive team, but down the stretch, when it matted most, Evans disappeared. To me, he reminds me a bit of another Texas product...Roy Williams. A great player in college with great numbers. But I could even see it way back then...Roy just didn't have that Moxie, that Grit that I want a PRIME WR to have.


                              I wish him well though. But I think in 2 years or 3 Max, all these...we should have traded whatever to get Evans posters here will be eating a huge Humble sandwich when it is all said and done.
                              I was a big time Evans supporter on here, but not to the point that I would have been willing to give up a future #1 for like Buffalo did for Sammy Watkins. I wasn't even willing to give up this year's #2 to move up to get Evans. And since our 3rd round comp pick was untradeable, there is no combination of day 3 picks that would have been enough ammunition to get something like that done without mortgaging future picks. The only draft prospect in recent years that I would have been willing to sell off multiple picks in that draft as well as a future draft was Calvin Johnson. He had no holes in his game or character whatsoever and would have been worth it. I've had a few other draft mancrushes in years since, but no one has approach the level of Megatron for me.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                              • Iron City Inc.
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 3237

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Slapstick
                                We would have had to tap into the 2015 draft, like Buffalo did...
                                Buffalo gave up their 2015 #1 and a sweetener. I like Evans and I understand Rod P's liking of him as well but is he worth 2 1's? I think we have to keep it real to a point.

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