Oh come on might as well whine like others here! But seriously can Timmons not do what you want from Mosely? Timmons looks bigger then 240'ish by my eyes. More of a thumper with speed I think. Lets move this discussion to how to use our MLB's to see if it does happen that way. I bet Shazier is a 3rd down guy or passing down guy for awhile like Timmons was with VW as still the run thumper. But we will see.
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you're spending the 15 overall pick in the draft on Shazier. a draft said to be much better then the previous year.
he better God damn be able to play like the 58th pick from the 2013 draftComment
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wow. For the last couple of years we have all been complaining about the lack of speed on defense. Team speed. We were all so high on Spence because of his "speed" but unfortunately the little fella suffered a tough leg injury.. now we get a guy who was probably just as if not more productive in college, who is faster and bigger than Spence yet this is somehow suppose to be bad?
Our Defense is SLOW.. We need guys like this. Guys that can play 3 downs, who can cover and who can get after the QB..
I like the Mosely kid but when I think of Ray Rice leaking out of the backfield I see Mosely looking more like Foot - but I can see this kid lighting his (bleep) up..Comment
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LOL - I've seen too many "bustamalu" complaints... Seems like when the masses are happy about early picks (Mendenhall, Sweed) it's the wrong pick. And when they are ticked, it usually turns out well. That alone encourages me.Oh come on might as well whine like others here! But seriously can Timmons not do what you want from Mosely? Timmons looks bigger then 240'ish by my eyes. More of a thumper with speed I think. Lets move this discussion to how to use our MLB's to see if it does happen that way. I bet Shazier is a 3rd down guy or passing down guy for awhile like Timmons was with VW as still the run thumper. But we will see.
Having said that, I want BOTH ILBs to be good run stoppers with respectable speed (4.7 or better). Bowman and Willis come to mind.
Still, I agree that as a rook, Shazier will likely spend the bulk of this season in sub-packages while VW plays early downs alongside Timmons. Meanwhile, he better get to SQUATTING cuz he need some additional weight in the arse.
Side note: Dallas was said to have been on the phone with his Agent when the pick was announced. Those who think the pick was too early for him, likely have it wrong. Just sayin2013 MNF Executive Champion!Comment
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No sh-t, dude. I agree. He better AT LEAST be as good as the 58th pick, but he SHOULD be BETTER than the 58th pick, by a lot.Comment
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By the way, I supported the Timmons pick and defended him all the way through and I was right in doing so. Although some refuse to admit it, Timmons is a fine player and worthy of his draft slot. So, in other words, I am not some general naysayer who claims every decision they make is wrong. But I will call a spade a spade, when, in fact, I feel they have screwed the pooch.LOL - I've seen too many "bustamalu" complaints... Seems like when the masses are happy about early picks (Mendenhall, Sweed) it's the wrong pick. And when they are ticked, it usually turns out well. That alone encourages me.
Having said that, I want BOTH ILBs to be good run stoppers with respectable speed (4.7 or better). Bowman and Willis come to mind.
Still, I agree that as a rook, Shazier will likely spend the bulk of this season in sub-packages while VW plays early downs alongside Timmons. Meanwhile, he better get to SQUATTING cuz he need some additional weight in the arse.
Side note: Dallas was said to have been on the phone with his Agent when the pick was announced. Those who think the pick was too early for him, likely have it wrong. Just sayinComment
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I, too, am hoping for great things out of Shazier....the more I find out about him, the more I like him.
But I'm concerned about his durablity/size at ILB...Yes, he may weigh in at around 240, but when I watch video of him, he sure doesn't LOOK that big...looks more like an NFL safety than a LB (size-wise).Comment
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I totally agree. He really does look like an NFL safety. If OGs get to him (which the plan is for that NOT to happen) he won't have a prayer getting away from them.I, too, am hoping for great things out of Shazier....the more I find out about him, the more I like him.
But I'm concerned about his durablity/size at ILB...Yes, he may weigh in at around 240, but when I watch video of him, he sure doesn't LOOK that big...looks more like an NFL safety than a LB (size-wise).Comment
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Agreed... Tomlin may like these "run and hit" linebackers but if they don't get better play out of the NT position, the only running and hitting going on will be OGs running towards our ILBs and hitting them into the ground.Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.Comment
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That wasn't specifict to any one person... i'm just talking "the masses"... when the majority of the people on the message board mocked the guy based on what we hear from Kiper and Mayock, we're probably wrong. Guys like Matt Jones come to mind (no, I didn't want him). Or people who wanted Chad Jackson over Santonio Holmes (I reserved judgement there).By the way, I supported the Timmons pick and defended him all the way through and I was right in doing so. Although some refuse to admit it, Timmons is a fine player and worthy of his draft slot. So, in other words, I am not some general naysayer who claims every decision they make is wrong. But I will call a spade a spade, when, in fact, I feel they have screwed the pooch.
Like you, I supported Timmons... I was happier that they selected Woodley. I, too, call a spade a spade... but, when I can actually SEE it.
I never, not once watched this kid play. I did watch Ohio State, but, wasn't looking for him. So, it would be silly to speak on something I don't know about.
90% of the people complaining are in the same boat (except, they're complaining anyway). Of the 10% who did watch looking specifically at him, 90% of them have no eye for NFL talent... not the kind I want drafting MY players. If you're in the remaining one percent who watched looking for him, know what you're watching and can adequately rate talent, that's impressive. But, even those guys miss - you can look at any NFL draft and realize that.
Again, I'm reserving judgement.2013 MNF Executive Champion!Comment
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Regardless of what position he plays or if he's 235 or 240 lbs I just see an amazing player in those highlight films. WTH is everyone not seeing? I swear the internet has blinded folks in seeing what's reality. He looks pretty F'in good to. I want play makers, not story lines or BS. Let the kid learn and improve. I agree with Ruthless on this aspect. What more can you ask for? Jeez.
And who knows maybe he will move to SS like Carnell Lake did. He looks like a splash play maker in the mold of the new Seahawks D.Comment
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