? for those 'loving' the shazier pick

[squidkid]

why didnt any of you have them in your mock draft sig?
did anyone of you have them in the 'who is gonna be our pick' type threads?
did anyone state how olb/ilb was one of our greatest needs?

i think OVI had him as a guess at #15 but not in his sig.
anyone else?

[sick beats]

I didn't see one mention of him, other than in the "worst nightmare pick" thread. I am so sick of the Steelers thinking they have to be cute and draft someone that is out of left field. They believe their own press clippings too much, about them being such draft "gurus." It simply hasn't been true for a pretty long time, but they still think they are genius. The emperor has no clothes.

[steelz09]

If they wanted a 215 athletic ILBer then why didn't they just move Troy there permanently and fill the SS spot vacated by Troy with Shamarko?

[RuthlessBurgher]

I am so sick of the Steelers thinking they have to be cute and draft someone that is out of left field.

Was the Jarvis Jones pick out of left field? Was David DeCastro? Cam Heyward? Maurkice Pouncey?

[RuthlessBurgher]

If they wanted a 215 athletic ILBer then why didn't they just move Troy there permanently and fill the SS spot vacated by Troy with Shamarko?

Ryan Shazier measured in at 6'1" and 237 lbs. at the combine.

What does Patrick Willis play at? 6'1" and 240 lbs.

What about Ray Lewis back in the day? 6'1" and 240 lbs.

Dude is the same height and a whole 3 lbs. lighter than the most dominant ILB's of the past several decades.

[papillon]

If they wanted a 215 athletic ILBer then why didn't they just move Troy there permanently and fill the SS spot vacated by Troy with Shamarko?

Well, mostly, because Shazier is listed at 237 which is 22 pounds of muscle heavier than Troy and Troy was never a linebacker. No one put him in their mock, because no one believed that to be the direction the Steelers would be going. It seemed Fata Compli that the Steelers were taking a CB or Mike Evans if he was available. The Steelers didn't see it that way and now we'll see how it works out for the team.

144 tackles, a bunch for losses and 7 sacks is a lot of production in one of the top 3 college conferences in America. I hope it works it, I'm not sold on the pick, but I'm not going to complain about it either. Shazier seems to be a great athlete (which you need, see Seattle), a good football player and comes with a great attitude, what more can you really ask for?

Pappy

[steelz09]

Shawn is a buckeye fan and he indicated that his playing weight was at the 210-215 area and added weight (likely water weight) for the combine.... so 237 appears to be a BS figure.

[sick beats]

Was the Jarvis Jones pick out of left field? Was David DeCastro? Cam Heyward? Maurkice Pouncey?

No, but this pick was. So was Landry Jones, Ziggy Hood, Limas Sweed, Bruce Davis, Matt Speath, David Sepulveda, Trai Essex, Kendall Simmons, Troy Edwards, Jeremy Staat, Jermain Sephens, et al. The Ravens just take who makes obvious sense. Pgh has to always be tricky and cute because they think they are warlocks at drafting. They aren't. They have been stinking up drafts for 5 years now.

[flippy]

There's quite a few of us that wanted an ILB and thought that was one of the team's biggest areas they could improve.

I thought Mosley would be the guy long before the mock draft seasons so I just stuck with him. But as we got closer to the draft I started hearing a couple people mention Shazier might be the 2nd best LB in the draft and when I saw Ovi put it in his mock and Colbert say we wanted to trade down, I had a feeling this was the guy we were locked in on.

He fits the mold of the Tomlin type pick perfectly. We seem to like OSU. It was so obvious all along looking at it 20/20.

[sick beats]

Shawn is a buckeye fan and he indicated that his playing weight was at the 210-215 area and added weight (likely water weight) for the combine.... so 237 appears to be a BS figure.

Watching him play, he sure doesn't look like 237. You really think this guy looks any where near 240? Does he resemble an NFL ILB? Face it, we have another project on our hands. Don't just draft someone who already fits the position; always draft players who need converted and transformed, because you guys are so super smart.

[steelz09]

Watching him play, he sure doesn't look like 237. You really think this guy looks any where near 240? Does he resemble an NFL ILB? Face it, we have another project on our hands. Don't just draft someone who already fits the position; always draft players who need converted and transformed, because you guys are so super smart.

Doesn't look that much bigger than Ike to be honest.

[sick beats]

Doesn't look that much bigger than Ike to be honest.

He really doesn't. In reality, they aren't that far off. Ike is 195, RS might have played around 210. That's our new ILB, first round pick: a 210 lb ILB.

[steelsnis]

He really doesn't. In reality, they aren't that far off. Ike is 195, RS might have played around 210. That's our new ILB, first round pick: a 210 lb ILB.

You guys are literally just making numbers up. Shawn "thinks" he played at 215. Sick Beats said he "might" have played at 210. This is like a bad game of telephone.

Here's what we know. He weighed in at 237 at the combine and set records there in the long jump and vertical jump. He also ran a 4.36. Oh and he had 143 tackles last year in the Big 10. That's who our 1st round pick is.

[SS Laser]

He really doesn't. In reality, they aren't that far off. Ike is 195, RS might have played around 210. That's our new ILB, first round pick: a 210 lb ILB.

Ok so who are you to say it will not work out well? Same as anyone who says it will work. You are freaking crazy if you think any of these prospects are a locks to succeed in the NFL. So much has to work out. I bet you figured A. Brown as a 6rd draft pick was just another 6th rd WR headed to the practice squad? Come on man. Quit the look at me I hate the Steelers 1st rd pick! WE GOT IT YESTERDAY! I just hope you are man enough to say how wrong you were when he plays well IF he does. DAMN!

[SteelerOfDeVille]

If he's going to be an ILB, I wanted Mosely, but, I will reserve judgement on him until I see him play. My biggest issue is I wanted a thumper - someone who will plug the LOS and make a tackle at the LOS. I'd seen Mosely and knew he could. Reports say this isn't Shazier's specialty... but, he has room to improve.