i never want to here we draft PBA again

[Slapstick]

As usual, we drafted the best player available...

The people here who complain that we should have drafted Mosley are the same people who complained about Jarvis Jones' injury history when we drafted him...

Also, ILB wasn't a need?

[steelblood]

Yeah, that sucks. Shazier is fast, but looking at his highlights, a lot of his tackles are more catches than hits. He's great when he's unblocked, but I see no evidence of any ability to get off blocks. Shazier and Timmons may have size, but if they don't get a NT to keep them clean, people will run all over this team.

At least the Steelers didn't rush to the podium, but I think they could have traded down and still gotten Shazier. Or Mosley, a more solid overall linebacker.

Yes, they did rush to the podium. This was who they wanted, obviously. They did not bother to wait for the allotted time and try to negotiate. They thought this was the player they needed.

I'm not upset about Mosley. He has an extensive injury history. I'm not that upset about missing on Dennard (he has his limitations). But, I see no reason not to negotiate for the full time. Why rush to the podium for Shazier? The only answer is that they wanted him all along.

[Oviedo]

There was 6 min's left on the clock when NFL network was flashing pick selection in at the bottom of the screen. I am liking this pick more and more now that I see how pissed some of you guys are. Reminds me of all the whiny bustamalu crap. That worked out great. Hell Shaizer is fast enough to play a bunch of the schemes as Troy did. And other times at SS even I think. If he is smart and picks up the mental part he can play all over the field it sounds like to me. SO he can help ease the lost of Troy when it happens. Also this pick is what BPA is. Forget primary needs and draft best play maker for the team.

Love the pick. With the spread oiffense growing in the NFL speed is essential and the ability to cover RBs and TEs. Too many are living 10 years ago wanting "run stuffers" and fat Nose Tackles. It is a speed game.

[phillyesq]

Yes, they did rush to the podium. This was who they wanted, obviously. They did not bother to wait for the allotted time and try to negotiate. They thought this was the player they needed.

I'm not upset about Mosley. He has an extensive injury history. I'm not that upset about missing on Dennard (he has his limitations). But, I see no reason not to negotiate for the full time. Why rush to the podium for Shazier? The only answer is that they wanted him all along.

Initially, I thought that they took more time. With so many holes, and Manziel on the board, I think it was foolish for them not to listen to offers and shop the pick. This could have been an opportunity to stockpile picks and restock the cupboard.

Rushing to grab Shazier shows a certain arrogance in the FO. An arrogance that, based on recent history (Mendenhall, Ziggy), is not as warranted as it once was.

[Slapstick]

Initially, I thought that they took more time. With so many holes, and Manziel on the board, I think it was foolish for them not to listen to offers and shop the pick. This could have been an opportunity to stockpile picks and restock the cupboard.

Rushing to grab Shazier shows a certain arrogance in the FO. An arrogance that, based on recent history (Mendenhall, Ziggy), is not as warranted as it once was.

Arrogance? In realizing that they need speed and playmaking ability in the front seven?

IMHO, that's actually humility...

[feltdizz]

Lol... the same poster(s) whining as usual...

[steelsnis]

Initially, I thought that they took more time. With so many holes, and Manziel on the board, I think it was foolish for them not to listen to offers and shop the pick. This could have been an opportunity to stockpile picks and restock the cupboard.

Rushing to grab Shazier shows a certain arrogance in the FO. An arrogance that, based on recent history (Mendenhall, Ziggy), is not as warranted as it once was.

Shazier is clearly the guy they wanted. According to both Dulac and Wexell, the Cowboys were on the phone with Shazier's agent and ready to take him at 16. Couldn't trade back and still pick him later.

[feltdizz]

Shazier is clearly the guy they wanted. According to both Dulac and Wexell, the Cowboys were on the phone with Shazier's agent and ready to take him at 16. Couldn't trade back and still pick him later.

Is it a bad thing to take the guy you wanted all along? Whats the point of entertaining offers if you want Shazier?

[steelz09]

Love the pick. With the spread oiffense growing in the NFL speed is essential and the ability to cover RBs and TEs. Too many are living 10 years ago wanting "run stuffers" and fat Nose Tackles. It is a speed game.

Teams don't need a spread offense to beat the Steelers... simply run the ball down our throats is an easy way to beat us.

[phillyesq]

Arrogance? In realizing that they need speed and playmaking ability in the front seven?

IMHO, that's actually humility...

Arrogance in that they believe so fully that Shazier is, apparently, the only guy that can help that defense that they rush to to the podium, without listening to the offers that were on the table, or even taking a few minutes to explore any offers that may be out there.

I believe they needed to add speed to the defense. But what if you could have added an extra first next year to move down? Or added a second this year? Is Shazier really the only ILB in the draft who could help the Steelers?

[Slapstick]

Arrogance in that they believe so fully that Shazier is, apparently, the only guy that can help that defense that they rush to to the podium, without listening to the offers that were on the table, or even taking a few minutes to explore any offers that may be out there.

I believe they needed to add speed to the defense. But what if you could have added an extra first next year to move down? Or added a second this year? Is Shazier really the only ILB in the draft who could help the Steelers?

And there, you're getting into the win now vs. win later debate...

Shazier is the only ILB with his particular skill set, production and measurables...he's not a workout warrior, the guy plays fast on tape as well...

Is he the missing piece on the defense? On a LB driven D, is another 1st rounder really a bad idea?

[Oviedo]

How about the really radical thought that these guys knew what they were doing and Shazier is going to be a very good NFL player?

[phillyesq]

Is it a bad thing to take the guy you wanted all along? Whats the point of entertaining offers if you want Shazier?

If you are that locked into a guy, you damn well better be right.

[phillyesq]

How about the really radical thought that these guys knew what they were doing and Shazier is going to be a very good NFL player?

Did you give them the same benefit of the doubt on Jarvis Jones?

[steelsnis]

Is it a bad thing to take the guy you wanted all along? Whats the point of entertaining offers if you want Shazier?

Thats exactly my point. They got the guy they wanted. I've seen others say they could have traded down and still picked Shazier later. Not true. Dallas would have grabbed him at 16 and Green Bay was waiting in the wings to get him if he fell.

They got their guy and I'm glad they did.