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  • Captain Lemming
    Legend
    • Jun 2008
    • 16128

    Draftnicks.....be honest

    A question for all you draft "experts".

    How many of you were absolutely elated when we drafted Mendenhall and Sweed 1 and 2?
    I was stoked big time.

    Here is a reminder:

    [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/4/21/4248364/steelers-draft-history-2008[/URL]

    Have you EVER been more excited top to bottom with a draft by this current staff?

    Not a one a current NFL starter. Sweed an absolute bust.
    Ironically only our last pick, career backup Mundy is the only player in that entire draft under contract with an NFL team.

    Again, how did you feel after that draft? HONESTLY.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 04-29-2014, 01:29 PM.
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  • phillyesq
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 7568

    #2
    I'll admit, I was pretty excited in 2012. I loved the DD pick, and I thought that Ta'amu would be the answer at NT. I didn't love the picks of Adams or Spence, but I liked Rainey and Toney Clemons as later round picks.

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    • calmkiller
      Pro Bowler
      • May 2008
      • 1819

      #3
      I did not want Mendenhall at all. I was fine with the Sweed pick. Shame he didn't work out. Still, never did like Mendenhall.
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      • steelblood
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4166

        #4
        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
        A question for all you draft "experts".

        How many of you were absolutely elated when we drafted Mendenhall and Sweed 1 and 2?
        I was stoked big time.

        Here is a reminder:

        [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/4/21/4248364/steelers-draft-history-2008[/URL]

        Have you EVER been more excited top to bottom with a draft by this current staff?

        Not a one a current NFL starter. Sweed an absolute bust.
        Ironically only our last pick, career backup Mundy is the only player in that entire draft under contract with an NFL team.

        Again, how did you feel after that draft? HONESTLY.
        I was happy with that draft (at least the top). Mendenhall had some good years and some big games, but ultimately fell short of expectations. Running Backs are a crapshoot and injuries played a part in his struggles and missed time. Sweed had the talent. He could have be a star. But, by all accounts he lost his marbles. It happens.

        If your point is that all of this draft talk is pointless, then you might as well give up now. Go away and let folks have fun. No one here thinks they know it all. We enjoy the Steelers and the draft. We enjoy college football and the discussions about players. Actually, it informs and deepens my understanding and enjoyment of every NFL game as I see these players again on NFL teams and remember their college careers, scouting reports and, and the experts' projections. It is fun to see the art and science of the draft come together and to watch NFL teams try to beat the system and other teams attempt to assemble their championship team. Sure, there is a great deal of luck or good fortune involved in being successful. But, that is also true of many NFL games and seasons. That is part of what makes the draft fun and an interesting mystery worth discussing and analyzing.
        Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          I was quite excited with the Mendenhall and Sweed picks...couldn't believe that either of them fell into our laps...never expected that to happen. I did not like the Bruce Davis pick...I was a Cliff Avril guy that year (and I think we brought Avril in for a pre-draft visit that year but did not bring in Davis, which made the Davis pick all the more puzzling when Avril was still available for us in round 3). I was indifferent about the Hills pick, but thought that it could be a decent value pick if he was able to recover from his injuries. I thought Dixon was intriguing where we got him because he was a Heisman candidate before his injury struck. Was indifferent about the last two picks at the time.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            Originally posted by phillyesq
            I'll admit, I was pretty excited in 2012. I loved the DD pick, and I thought that Ta'amu would be the answer at NT. I didn't love the picks of Adams or Spence, but I liked Rainey and Toney Clemons as later round picks.
            LOVED the DeCastro pick (as I'm sure many of you remember). Also really liked the Ta'Amu pick as well. Not a fan of the Adams pick at all (but nothing was getting me down from my DeCastro high, so I put up with it). I wasn't on the Spence or Rainey bandwagons pre-draft, but saw enough attributes that were sufficiently intriguing to make me like those picks at the time.
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • Iron City Inc.
              Hall of Famer
              • Jun 2013
              • 3254

              #7
              Mendenhall pick I was good with that. He had clocked I believe a 4.45 and seemed durable enough,shifty enough and at 218 or so big enough. Desire to be special I guess is something one can't always figure out. He had some good performances but what's going on between a prospects ears you just never know for sure.

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              • flippy
                Legend
                • Dec 2008
                • 17088

                #8
                I was most excited about Sweed. And I still think he was a good football player even though he didn't pan out likely do to some other non football issues. In general I liked the draft at the time. But now it makes me nervous any time the experts say a guy fell to us that's a can't miss.

                Made me worried about Pouncey, DD, and JJ for example.
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                • SidSmythe
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 4708

                  #9
                  I was disappointed with the draft b/c we needed OL in the worst way and we didn't get it done.
                  Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                  Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                  Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #10
                    Originally posted by flippy
                    I was most excited about Sweed. And I still think he was a good football player even though he didn't pan out likely do to some other non football issues. In general I liked the draft at the time. But now it makes me nervous any time the experts say a guy fell to us that's a can't miss.

                    Made me worried about Pouncey, DD, and JJ for example.
                    I'll be happy if flippy gets nervous because Mike Evans falls to us in a week-and-a-half.
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SidSmythe
                      I was disappointed with the draft b/c we needed OL in the worst way and we didn't get it done.
                      That happens when 7 of the first 21 picks are offensive tackles. I thought reaching for the 8th OT at #23 would have been a major stretch, but in hindsight, Duane Brown turned out to be a much better pick then Mendenhall. Oh well.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • phillyesq
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 7568

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        I was quite excited with the Mendenhall and Sweed picks...couldn't believe that either of them fell into our laps...never expected that to happen. I did not like the Bruce Davis pick...I was a Cliff Avril guy that year (and I think we brought Avril in for a pre-draft visit that year but did not bring in Davis, which made the Davis pick all the more puzzling when Avril was still available for us in round 3). I was indifferent about the Hills pick, but thought that it could be a decent value pick if he was able to recover from his injuries. I thought Dixon was intriguing where we got him because he was a Heisman candidate before his injury struck. Was indifferent about the last two picks at the time.
                        Davis over Avril still stings. You are correct - Avril was brought in for a visit, and Davis was not. I couldn't understand it, and still don't. The only explanation I could come up with was that there must have been something negative in the interview with Avril.

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                        • Ghost
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 6543

                          #13
                          Didn't really know all that much about Mendy but was trusting the front office had done it's homework so neither ecstatic nor concerned. Was very excited about the Sweed pick. Most definitely thought they'd gotten a steal on a big WR. I remember all the pundits thinking he was tremendous value at his pick. Who knew he'd be such a giant bust. Didn't know Davis but a lot of people thought it was a sketchy pick (and it was). Thought maybe the'd get a steal (at least for special teams) in Humpal (they did not...).
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                          • Shawn
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 15131

                            #14
                            I was lukewarm on Mendenhall...loved the Sweed pick. I still think the guy had the talent just not the mentality.
                            Trolls are people too.

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                            • Captain Lemming
                              Legend
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 16128

                              #15
                              If your point is that all of this draft talk is pointless, then you might as well give up now. Go away and let folks have fun.
                              Wow, that is pretty strong.
                              I myself have engaged in this draft talk discussion. Not saying it is pointless all.
                              On another thread someone commented on HOW WRONG he was that year. I recalled myself also being CERTAIN that was quite the draft. I also recall the board being ecstatic over that draft. Here is the topic

                              [url]http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/42406-Dulac-Steelers-want-to-draft-Texas-A-amp-M-WR-Mike-Evans/page25[/url]

                              THAT is why I started this thread

                              No one here thinks they know it all.
                              I don't doubt YOU feel that way.
                              Speak for yourself.....fine.
                              Not so convinced that is a universal POV on this list.

                              Recalling that draft keeps me grounded.
                              Last edited by Captain Lemming; 04-29-2014, 10:25 PM.
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