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  • K Train
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2014
    • 3685

    Who Would You Draft?

    These are the 14 players taken before us.... and there are no trade down options

    Manziel, Bortles, Bridgewater
    Clowney, Mack, Barr, Mosley
    Robinson, Matthews
    Watkins, Evans
    Ebron
    Gilbert, Dennard

    Id probably go with either Lee or Benjamin, but fuller, hageman, and shazier would get my consideration
  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Originally posted by K Train
    These are the 14 players taken before us.... and there are no trade down options

    Manziel, Bortles, Bridgewater
    Clowney, Mack, Barr, Mosley
    Robinson, Matthews
    Watkins, Evans
    Ebron
    Gilbert, Dennard

    Id probably go with either Lee or Benjamin, but fuller, hageman, and shazier would get my consideration
    Benjamin or Hageman in that order
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3937

      #3
      That could be what the Steelers are up against. If you can't find a trade down partner in that scenario...You might be overdrafting a guy now. The BPA in that scenario would be Lewan. Nobody wants an OL with the first pick....But he would be BPA. Board may look like:

      Lewan
      Fuller
      Benjamin
      Nix
      Lee
      Hageman
      Roby
      Shazier

      Really is difficult to nail down. From Nix back...I believe is all too early for #15. I would have too be 110% sold on Fuller & Benjamin to take at #15. To stay with the Steelers philosophy that has served them well...They may go with BPA in Lewan. Personally....I would go with Benjamin if I had to pick.

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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #4
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Benjamin or Hageman in that order
        I agree.....
        Trolls are people too.

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          BPA would be Taylor Lewan there, so that would be the pick (there is enough depth at WR and CB to still be able to find quality ones on day two of the draft). Munchak should be able to manage with Beachum, Gilbert, and Adams at tackle, but giving him someone nasty like Taylor Lewan would be giving him someone with that rough edge to his game that he could plug in for a decade like some of the tackles he has worked with in the past like Jon Runyan and Michael Roos.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • K Train
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2014
            • 3685

            #6
            I wouldnt even consider Lewan there personally

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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #7
              Originally posted by K Train
              I wouldnt even consider Lewan there personally
              Why not? He's got size, he's got athleticism, he's got a mean streak, and he's played in a major conference. Tackle prospects like that don't exactly grow on trees. And it's not like we have any All-Pro tackles on our roster.
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #8
                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                BPA would be Taylor Lewan there, so that would be the pick (there is enough depth at WR and CB to still be able to find quality ones on day two of the draft). Munchak should be able to manage with Beachum, Gilbert, and Adams at tackle, but giving him someone nasty like Taylor Lewan would be giving him someone with that rough edge to his game that he could plug in for a decade like some of the tackles he has worked with in the past like Jon Runyan and Michael Roos.
                I'd be OK with Lewan especially since Munchak is now here to train these guys up. Having depth at OT is a good probalem to have, plus it would allow Beachum to move to Left Guard which I think he would excel at in a zone blocking scheme.
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • K Train
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 3685

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  Why not? He's got size, he's got athleticism, he's got a mean streak, and he's played in a major conference. Tackle prospects like that don't exactly grow on trees. And it's not like we have any All-Pro tackles on our roster.
                  To me hes not even as good as Reily Reiff was (who is a decent player) or Gabe Carimi (who is terrible now)

                  Combine hero and Im not interested. Id be much more inclined to see what munchak can do with beachum/adams/gilbert....the only reason he was brought in

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                  • ikestops85
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 3724

                    #10
                    I think I would go with Donald. I know, he doesn't fit into our system ... blah, blah, blah, but a good football player is a good football player. I think he will be a disrupter no matter what system he plays in. With Heyward on one side and Donald on the other we might be able to push the middle of the pocket and start getting some more sacks.
                    As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                    but Go Steelers!!!

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                    • K Train
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 3685

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      I'd be OK with Lewan especially since Munchak is now here to train these guys up. Having depth at OT is a good probalem to have, plus it would allow Beachum to move to Left Guard which I think he would excel at in a zone blocking scheme.
                      They love foster and foster played well enough to keep his job at LG

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                      • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3937

                        #12
                        Originally posted by K Train
                        To me hes not even as good as Reily Reiff was (who is a decent player) or Gabe Carimi (who is terrible now)

                        Combine hero and Im not interested. Id be much more inclined to see what munchak can do with beachum/adams/gilbert....the only reason he was brought in
                        Lewan was on the board long before the combine. He is clearly the BPA in this scenario. Steelers have far better needs than a LT especially with Munchak coming aboard. But if you stick to your board & philosophy...He is the guy. I would be disappointed....But would understand.

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #13
                          Originally posted by K Train
                          To me hes not even as good as Reily Reiff was (who is a decent player) or Gabe Carimi (who is terrible now)

                          Combine hero and Im not interested. Id be much more inclined to see what munchak can do with beachum/adams/gilbert....the only reason he was brought in
                          I wouldn't call him a combine hero. He was always considered to be a mid-first-round talent well before the combine...the combine performances just boosted him up into top 10 consideration. If he did fall to 15, then he'd be considered (wasn't our full complement of draft day decision makers up in Ann Arbor for their Pro Day?), especially considering all of the other potential targets you have off the board in the first 14 picks.
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 3937

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                            I wouldn't call him a combine hero. He was always considered to be a mid-first-round talent well before the combine...the combine performances just boosted him up into top 10 consideration. If he did fall to 15, then he'd be considered (wasn't our full complement of draft day decision makers up in Ann Arbor for their Pro Day?), especially considering all of the other potential targets you have off the board in the first 14 picks.
                            Ruthless said it best.

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                            • Shawn
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15131

                              #15
                              Originally posted by K Train
                              I wouldnt even consider Lewan there personally
                              Agreed. The people who are advocating for Lewan couldn't have watched him get dominated and I mean dominated by a freshman last season. I don't care if he looked like an All Pro the rest of the year, that game was the worst game I have ever seen a LT play...no joke. And that means it's worse than Mike Adams last season.
                              Trolls are people too.

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