Gilbert vs Dennard

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  • Ernie
    Legend
    • Aug 2013
    • 8470

    #16
    Originally posted by Slapstick
    That is what is said about William Gay...
    and Gay was solid for us last year.

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    • D Rock
      Hall of Famer
      • Dec 2008
      • 2797

      #17
      Originally posted by K Train
      Gilbert is not a special teams prospect lol

      Its not his speed alone that gives him immense potential, its ball skills and ability to sink his hips and pivot while playing zone. He could have asante samuel like zone skills in reacting to the ball. Not that Gilbert would be the pick machine in our defense that he was at school but its funny for how frustrated fans get at ike for not getting all the pickzzzz but they want the exact same type of player in Dennard, a CB that can run on the WRs hip and is aware enough to get his head around to "play the ball, not the receiver" and rarely make the interception

      Im starting to think neither will be there though

      People say this every time Dennard is discussed - the dude had 3, 3, and 4 INTs the last 3 years. It is simply not true that he doesn't make picks. He actually had some very good INTs and showed good hands making them.

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      • K Train
        Hall of Famer
        • Jan 2014
        • 3685

        #18
        Hes not a ball hawking corner though, which isnt a quality i think a corner needs to have. His worst quality is the tendency to be grabby. He can have zero interceptions for all i care if its because no one is willing to throw towards him

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        • SteelerOfDeVille
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 9069

          #19
          Originally posted by Slapstick
          That is what is said about William Gay...
          funny, when he was drafted, a lot of the write-ups called it a bad pick. I called him "Deshea 2.0... smart player, who youwill want in the rotation, he could start in a pinch, but, would be best suited as a REALLY GOOOD nickel back." One of the advantages of a kid playing for your local team... you see him a lot...

          Anyway, on topic... I'm REALLY leaning toward Dennard - and starting to think he might be there
          2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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          • SteelCrazy
            Legend
            • Aug 2008
            • 5049

            #20
            Since starting this thread, I began watching a lot of film on CB's in the Draft. To tell the truth, I dont think either is the best CB. If given the choice, I'd pick Kyle Fuller. He seems to me like he has the most upside and is more physically gifted then the other 2.

            I must be wrong though, because all the experts are sticking with the other 2. Thoughts?
            2019 Mock

            1. ILB
            2. CB
            3. ILB
            4. S
            5. CB
            6. ILB
            7. S

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            • Sugar
              Hall of Famer
              • Oct 2008
              • 3700

              #21
              In his latest mock on NFL.com, Daniel Jeremiah has the Steelers going with Bradley Roby at #15 and Dennard going to SF all the way down at #30. He has the Titans taking Gilbert at #11. How do you guys think Roby compares with Dennard and Gilbert?

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              • Shawn
                Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 15131

                #22
                I don't think it's even close. Maylock has Dennard as the best DB in the draft. Followed by Fuller THEN Gilbert then Roby. I think that is accurate based upon refined DB cover skills. I believe Maylock is less impressed with 40 times and upside and more grounded in what have they produced on the field. If that is the case, his rankings make much sense.

                Roby is a project and I see no way the Steelers select him at 15. As much as I like his upside I watched him bite on Abberderis double moves all game long giving up 200 yards to a third round talent. The Steelers are better evaluators of talent than that. The only time I really seen them reach for a guy who hadn't really put together an amazing college career was with Timmons based on upside. Timmons was raw and had only one starting season under his belt but the Steelers fell in love with him. Maybe that happens with Roby, but I seriously doubt it.
                Trolls are people too.

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                • SteelCrazy
                  Legend
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 5049

                  #23
                  I watched Roby all season. I'm a huge Buckeyes fan. With that said, Roby will be a good CB in the NFL, but just not a 1st 15 pick good. I hope he turns out to be Revis good, but I just do not see it.

                  I see Kyle Fuller being very very good and worth that 15th pick. If all CB's are still up for grabs when we pick, I hope they take Fuller.
                  2019 Mock

                  1. ILB
                  2. CB
                  3. ILB
                  4. S
                  5. CB
                  6. ILB
                  7. S

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                  • Sugar
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3700

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                    I watched Roby all season. I'm a huge Buckeyes fan. With that said, Roby will be a good CB in the NFL, but just not a 1st 15 pick good. I hope he turns out to be Revis good, but I just do not see it.

                    I see Kyle Fuller being very very good and worth that 15th pick. If all CB's are still up for grabs when we pick, I hope they take Fuller.
                    Cool. I just wasn't sure because posters on this board seemed to be thinking Dennard, Gilbert or possibly Fuller. Then I go look at the NFL.com mock and it shows Roby. Since I've pretty much quit watching the amateurs, I wasn't sure how you guys thought he would grade.

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