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  • Slapstick
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 0

    At Least For The Rest Of This Offseason...

    ...can we stop with the "The Steelers only bring in free agents for PR" stuff?
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.
  • SidSmythe
    Hall of Famer
    • Sep 2008
    • 4708

    #2
    Who says that???

    the Steelers rarely brought in Free Agents in the past b/c they drafted so well.

    A few years of poor drafting and now we're needing to replace guys in F.A.
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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    • Slapstick
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 0

      #3
      Who says that? Really?

      Read some of the threads regarding FA visits (ie MJD)...
      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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      • BradshawsHairdresser
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 7056

        #4
        Well, I'm one who says that some (not all) of the FAs they bring in for visits are not really serious looks, but mostly for PR. Let me ask you...do you think they were really serious about signing Louis Delmas? Or Alex Carrington? What would lead you to believe so? (Turns out they could have had him for $1.5 million for a year if they'd wanted him--they spent more than that on Cam Thomas). Do you really think they were serious about trying to sign Maurice Jones-Drew? They already knew what he was looking for, and it was more than they wanted to pay.

        What about Elvis Dumervil and Dwight Freeney last year? Don't know if they ever brought them in for visits, but they were vocal about wanting to do so. Cash-strapped as the Steelers were, do you really think they were serious about making a play for those guys?

        I stand by what I said. And if I think they're doing it again, guess what? I'll likely say so again! Last I checked, this is a board to register OPINIONS. Feel free to disagree, but don't expect me to quit saying what I believe just because you don't like it.

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        • D Rock
          Hall of Famer
          • Dec 2008
          • 2797

          #5
          Alex Carrington visited, Cam Thomas was signed - defensive ends. Clearly serious visits.
          Louis Delmas vistied, Mike Mitchell was signed - free safeties. Clearly serious visits.
          MJD visited, Blount was signed - running backs. Clearly serious visits.

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            #6
            Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
            Well, I'm one who says that some (not all) of the FAs they bring in for visits are not really serious looks, but mostly for PR. Let me ask you...do you think they were really serious about signing Louis Delmas? Or Alex Carrington? What would lead you to believe so? (Turns out they could have had him for $1.5 million for a year if they'd wanted him--they spent more than that on Cam Thomas). Do you really think they were serious about trying to sign Maurice Jones-Drew? They already knew what he was looking for, and it was more than they wanted to pay.

            What about Elvis Dumervil and Dwight Freeney last year? Don't know if they ever brought them in for visits, but they were vocal about wanting to do so. Cash-strapped as the Steelers were, do you really think they were serious about making a play for those guys?

            I stand by what I said. And if I think they're doing it again, guess what? I'll likely say so again! Last I checked, this is a board to register OPINIONS. Feel free to disagree, but don't expect me to quit saying what I believe just because you don't like it.
            You can say whatever you want to...even after you are proven wrong...that's cool...
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • BradshawsHairdresser
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 7056

              #7
              Originally posted by Slapstick
              You can say whatever you want to...even after you are proven wrong...that's cool...
              That's pretty funny coming from you...

              But you've "proven" nothing in regard to the Steelers' seriousness about signing all these players. I'll admit, I have no "proof" for my assertion...it's just my opinion. But I guess you have "proof"...so give us the juicy details of the team's inner conversations to back your assertion up.

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #8
                The proof is in the new Steeler contracts given out...

                Read D Rock's post...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • thor75
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1038

                  #9
                  So do you dislike the Steelers bringing these guys in? or that the fans thinking that they have no chance in signing them - thus it is a PR move? I just don't see it as a PR move. Why waste the time and energy? They probably glean a lot of info from these guys coming in. What's their health, their football IQ, how they see themselves contributing, etc.

                  It could just be plain old information gathering, same as the combine, pro days for rookies. These guys are just vets.

                  The PR viewpoint is far fetched imo. Since when have the Steelers ran their operation according to fan polls?
                  1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
                  2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
                  3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
                  4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
                  5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
                  5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
                  6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
                  6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
                  7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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                  • BradshawsHairdresser
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 7056

                    #10
                    Originally posted by thor75

                    Since when have the Steelers ran their operation according to fan polls?
                    I think that the Steelers, like other NFL teams, do a LOT of things to cater to what they think their fans might want.

                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    The proof is in the new Steeler contracts given out...

                    Read D Rock's post...
                    I did read his post. But there were no "Steeler contracts" given to Delmas, Carrington, or MJD. How do the contracts given to the other guys "prove" that the Steelers were serious about trying to sign Delmas, Carrington, or MJD?

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                    • Discipline of Steel
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3882

                      #11
                      I think it shows we intended to sign someone at those positions and therefore the aforementioned must have been viable options at one point.
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                      Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of their women.

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                      • BradshawsHairdresser
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 7056

                        #12
                        Originally posted by thor75
                        So do you dislike the Steelers bringing these guys in? or that the fans thinking that they have no chance in signing them - thus it is a PR move? I just don't see it as a PR move. Why waste the time and energy? They probably glean a lot of info from these guys coming in. What's their health, their football IQ, how they see themselves contributing, etc.

                        It could just be plain old information gathering, same as the combine, pro days for rookies. These guys are just vets.
                        I respect your opinion. I think that in a rare case, when the player is coming off an injury, they genuinely do want their own physicians to check them out. But otherwise--and this would cover the vast majority of the professionals that they look at--I think they already know if they really want to sign the player (or have a realistic chance of doing so) before they ever bring them in.

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                        • steelsnis
                          Starter
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 980

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                          I think that the Steelers, like other NFL teams, do a LOT of things to cater to what they think their fans might want.



                          I did read his post. But there were no "Steeler contracts" given to Delmas, Carrington, or MJD. How do the contracts given to the other guys "prove" that the Steelers were serious about trying to sign Delmas, Carrington, or MJD?
                          Do you honestly think the Steelers (or any other team) intends to sign every single person they bring in for a visit? These visits are interviews. Do companies plan to hire every single person they bring in for an interview? Absolutely not! Some aren't a great fit but you might be interested in meeting them and getting an idea of who they are. Some price themselves out of a job immediately. Some are great fits and the interview solidifies it. He11, some guys come in for Colbert and Tomlin to gather info on for possible future deals/trades, etc. Tons of reasons to meet with a free agent.

                          We're nuts if we think teams only do things to appease the fans. It's a multi-billion dollar business, no one is doing thingsfor the sake of appearances.

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                          • SidSmythe
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 4708

                            #14
                            I honestly think someone like MJD is brought in for 1 reason. Not to sign a contract but to kick tires.

                            Lets say June 1st rolls around and the Steelers were the only team that gave him a serious look.....then who would MJD turn to for a 1 yr contract when that time comes?? It's a long shot but obviously it was worth a try for the Steelers who were SERIOUS about adding a veteran back
                            Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                            Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                            Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                            • steelsnis
                              Starter
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 980

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SidSmythe
                              I honestly think someone like MJD is brought in for 1 reason. Not to sign a contract but to kick tires.

                              Lets say June 1st rolls around and the Steelers were the only team that gave him a serious look.....then who would MJD turn to for a 1 yr contract when that time comes?? It's a long shot but obviously it was worth a try for the Steelers who were SERIOUS about adding a veteran back
                              Exactly right. It's all about gathering as much information you can about as many players you possibly can.

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