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  • Shawn
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    • Mar 2008
    • 15131

    How I think this plays out...

    After the combine, and some recent "insider" information floating around, I'm ready to put together my board. Now mind you, it's not the board I would put together but how I believe the Steelers board looks currently.

    1) Khalil Mack
    2) Jadeveon Clowney
    3) Sammy Watkins
    4) Teddy Bridgewater
    5) Anthony Barr
    6) Greg Robinson
    7) Jake Matthews
    Mike Evans
    9) CJ Mosley
    10) Darqueze Dennard
    11) Justin Gilbert
    12) Eric Ebron
    13) Calvin Pryor
    14) Hasean Clinton-Dix
    15) Aaron Donald
    16) Marquise Lee
    17) Timmy Jernigan
    1 Kelvin Benjamin
    19) Blake Bortles
    20) Cyrus Kouandjio
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  • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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    • May 2008
    • 10287

    #2
    Is this how you think the Steelers would draft? So, if Bridgewater falls to 15, and none of Watkins, Clowney, or Mack do, that Teddy B. is the choice?
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    • squidkid
      Legend
      • Feb 2012
      • 5847

      #3
      why would the steelers have qbs on their list?
      steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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      • D Rock
        Hall of Famer
        • Dec 2008
        • 2797

        #4
        Cyrus K has a bum knee and terrible workouts. No way is that guy considered top 20 anymore.

        Why Bridgewater all the way at 4 and Bortles not til 15?

        Why not until 6 and 7 for the first Olinemen?

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        • SteelerOfDeVille
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          • May 2008
          • 9069

          #5
          they have to RANK the players, regardless of need. it helps them determine what they expect to be available, etc. doesn't necessarily mean they'll take them.
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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #6
            Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            Is this how you think the Steelers would draft? So, if Bridgewater falls to 15, and none of Watkins, Clowney, or Mack do, that Teddy B. is the choice?
            Yes, this is how I believe the Steelers would draft. While QB isn't a need this season. To pass on a talent like Bridgewater if he fell to 15 would be ignorant. While I like Manziel better, I doubt he is even on the Steelers board.
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            • Shawn
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              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #7
              Originally posted by D Rock
              Cyrus K has a bum knee and terrible workouts. No way is that guy considered top 20 anymore.

              Why Bridgewater all the way at 4 and Bortles not til 15?

              Why not until 6 and 7 for the first Olinemen?
              I believe Bridgewater to be heads above Bortles who in my opinion has the ceiling of Flacco. Bridgewater's only knock is his build. He is tall enough, has the arm and accuracy to make all the throws, and he has a very high football IQ, processing reads better than just about any QB we have seen in recent years.

              Some of you act as if Ben will play forever. And who knows when we will be drafting this high again. If your QB is 31, has taken as many hits as Ben...and you are looking at a franchise QB that slipped. You take him.

              PS-CBS post combine has Cyrus at 24. And the OLmen listed IMO are about on par with the talent around them in those slots. Meaning the Steelers will have need factored into their board.
              Last edited by Shawn; 03-03-2014, 05:03 PM.
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              • steelblood
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 4166

                #8
                Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                they have to RANK the players, regardless of need. it helps them determine what they expect to be available, etc. doesn't necessarily mean they'll take them.
                i believe this is incorrect. No player has to be on a draft board (even if he is a top ten talent). Now, in the internal mock drafts the Steelers do, Bridgewater would be included.
                Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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                • pfelix73
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3463

                  #9
                  I recommend that you all re-read this post by Lance Zierlein from a few years ago, before you start deciding on how you are stacking the Steelers board.

                  [URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1128814-lance-zierlein-shows-the-steelers-way-and-how-draft-boards-are-put-together"]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1128814-lance-zierlein-shows-the-steelers-way-and-how-draft-boards-are-put-together

                  The reality is, however, that you would be blown away if you found out just how differently a team's draft board may look from what you are used to seeing on draft sites.



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                  • pfelix73
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                    • Aug 2008
                    • 3463

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    Yes, this is how I believe the Steelers would draft. While QB isn't a need this season. To pass on a talent like Bridgewater if he fell to 15 would be ignorant. While I like Manziel better, I doubt he is even on the Steelers board.
                    No.. Read the article that Lance Zierlein put together a few years ago explaining how the Steelers conduct their draft board. All of those QB's Manziel, Bridgewater, Bortles, will not be on their final draft board when they stack the boards.
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                    • Shawn
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pfelix73
                      No.. Read the article that Lance Zierlein put together a few years ago explaining how the Steelers conduct their draft board. All of those QB's Manziel, Bridgewater, Bortles, will not be on their final draft board when they stack the boards.
                      Read it...basically said their board would look different than mock draft boards. Not a whole lot of insight there. Hence the reason I left off Manziel...due to character issues. Also, the league may see someone as a second rounder but the Steelers don't. Wow. where did he come up with that mind blowing insight. But, any fan who believes the Steelers would pass on Bridgewater if he fell is likely mistaken. If the Steelers board were that different than consensus top 30, why is it many of us guess correctly the first round pick? I actually got round 1 and 2 correct last season.
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                      • pfelix73
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 3463

                        #12
                        Did you actually hit the highlighted word in that article that goes into the details and actually lists the draft board he thought would be the Steelers that season? I think it was 2 years ago when we drafted DeCastro. Do you see on his board where DeCastro is like 2 or 3 players higher than Hightower and was also 1 spot higher than the other OG that everyone was talking about- and also that Mike Adams was listed 30th. I know it was a no brainer to draft DD considering he slid down the board, but Hightower was right there too. As it played out, we drafted DD, then NE moved right up behind us and drafted Hightower. Then in the 2nd round we took Adams who was listed at 30 on the board and was probably the highest player listed on their board at the time they took him in round 2. I think his article on how they set the board up is quite accurate.

                        I believe that the Steelers are NOT in the market for a starting QB since Ben is in his prime right now. Therefore, I would then conclude that ALL QB's are off their boards for this year as they drafted a QB to back up Ben last year.
                        Last edited by pfelix73; 03-03-2014, 10:37 PM.
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                        • Shawn
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                          • Mar 2008
                          • 15131

                          #13
                          I seen it. Wouldn't change how I placed my top 20. And you might be right. I just don't see the Steelers passing on an elite QB.
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                          • SS Laser
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1929

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Shawn
                            I seen it. Wouldn't change how I placed my top 20. And you might be right. I just don't see the Steelers passing on an elite QB.
                            The way I see it is maybe the Steelers grade Bridgewater as a 2 or 3rd round not as a elite QB PROSPECT. So they would pass on him at 15.

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                            • papillon
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 11340

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              Read it...basically said their board would look different than mock draft boards. Not a whole lot of insight there. Hence the reason I left off Manziel...due to character issues. Also, the league may see someone as a second rounder but the Steelers don't. Wow. where did he come up with that mind blowing insight. But, any fan who believes the Steelers would pass on Bridgewater if he fell is likely mistaken. If the Steelers board were that different than consensus top 30, why is it many of us guess correctly the first round pick? I actually got round 1 and 2 correct last season.
                              Help me out here, if Bridgewater fell to 1.15, why would the Steelers draft him? It would be a 1st round pick that isn't helping the Steelers on either side of the ball for at least 2 years, but more likely 4 or 5 years. I just don't see the purpose in drafting a player that high that you aren't going to use for somewhere between 2 and 5 years, barring injury to Ben of course.

                              I get the whole "value" idea when you have someone graded top 5 and you can draft him at 15, but don't need a place for him to play a little sooner than the Steelers hope they will need him?

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                              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
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