Why the pick won't be Benjamin.

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  • phillyesq
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    • May 2008
    • 7568

    #16
    Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    I don't have Benjamin in the Top 15 so I would agree. I have Watkins & Evans in that as well as Ebron. Have Gilbert & Mosley inside that too. Don't have Dennard, Clinton-Dix, or Nix in the Top 15 so wouldn't take them either without exploring a trade back.
    I pretty much agree with your rankings. I'd be quite pleased with any of Watkins, Evans or Gilbert at 15. I'd be fine with Ebron or Mosley as well, but would probably be disappointed with any of the others that you listed.

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    • K Train
      Hall of Famer
      • Jan 2014
      • 3685

      #17
      Benjamin is really interesting. He doesnt have top end speed or quickness but his route running has improved over the year and his size is ridiculous. He COULD be the perfect compliment to brown, but he also could be a nobody. His size is definitely rare at the position

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      • Shawn
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        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #18
        Originally posted by K Train
        Benjamin is really interesting. He doesnt have top end speed or quickness but his route running has improved over the year and his size is ridiculous. He COULD be the perfect compliment to brown, but he also could be a nobody. His size is definitely rare at the position
        Generally speaking...pure jump ball kings don't pan out well in the NFL. Benjamin is a project. IMO he is a boom/bust kind of second round talent. To be perfectly honest Sweed was the better college talent. Frankly, he was a better WR in all aspects of the game except the jump ball.
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        • K Train
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          • Jan 2014
          • 3685

          #19
          Originally posted by Shawn
          Generally speaking...pure jump ball kings don't pan out well in the NFL. Benjamin is a project. IMO he is a boom/bust kind of second round talent. To be perfectly honest Sweed was the better college talent. Frankly, he was a better WR in all aspects of the game except the jump ball.
          He is absolutely a boom or bust guy. Watkins, Evans, Lee, Moncrief are all higher than him for me, but his tools are very intriguing.

          One thing about him is how his routes did mprove last year and his frame isnt thin like a Dwayen Jarrett, James Hardy, Ramses Barden, Limas Sweed. I LOVED sweed, its so upsetting that he wasnt what we thought hed be.

          He is s jump ball guy, but he could also be a great possession guy like Keyshawn, Boldin, Marshall, ect...doesnt have deep speed per say but he caught quite a few balls down the sideline as well. He could be a guy with low YPC or he could be a guy with 20+ YPC...really tough to pin point what kind of player he will be.

          At first, my comparison was Reggie Williams while at washington, and thats a frightening comparison. I wouldnt hate the pick because i do think he has a high ceiling, but he has a out-of-the-league-in-2-years floor too

          I think draft day they will covet watkins or evans, they really arent afraid to move up if that is the case...weve seen it before

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          • Shawn
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            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #20
            Originally posted by K Train
            He is absolutely a boom or bust guy. Watkins, Evans, Lee, Moncrief are all higher than him for me, but his tools are very intriguing.

            One thing about him is how his routes did mprove last year and his frame isnt thin like a Dwayen Jarrett, James Hardy, Ramses Barden, Limas Sweed. I LOVED sweed, its so upsetting that he wasnt what we thought hed be.

            He is s jump ball guy, but he could also be a great possession guy like Keyshawn, Boldin, Marshall, ect...doesnt have deep speed per say but he caught quite a few balls down the sideline as well. He could be a guy with low YPC or he could be a guy with 20+ YPC...really tough to pin point what kind of player he will be.

            At first, my comparison was Reggie Williams while at washington, and thats a frightening comparison. I wouldnt hate the pick because i do think he has a high ceiling, but he has a out-of-the-league-in-2-years floor too

            I think draft day they will covet watkins or evans, they really arent afraid to move up if that is the case...weve seen it before
            The thing that I personally like about him is how physical he plays. He is a TE at wideout. Height, physicality, and jump ball skills...is that enough? I would like to find out...but not in the first round.
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            • Oviedo
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              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #21
              Originally posted by Shawn
              The thing that I personally like about him is how physical he plays. He is a TE at wideout. Height, physicality, and jump ball skills...is that enough? I would like to find out...but not in the first round.
              Ebron could give you that with more upside.
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              • K Train
                Hall of Famer
                • Jan 2014
                • 3685

                #22
                Benjamin is violent at the LOS and as a blocker, Julio Jones like in that regard.

                Not sure Id say Ebron has more upside, id say hes safer with great upside but I dont think any WR or TE can touch benjamin in pure upside

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                • Shawn
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 15131

                  #23
                  Originally posted by K Train
                  Benjamin is violent at the LOS and as a blocker, Julio Jones like in that regard.

                  Not sure Id say Ebron has more upside, id say hes safer with great upside but I dont think any WR or TE can touch benjamin in pure upside
                  I would agree. IMO, Benjamin has the highest ceiling of any WR in this draft. But, he is certainly a boom/bust kind of player. Ebron is a much safer pick.
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