Worried we'll try to fill a need w/ another talented but inconsistent Buckeye in Rd 2

[hawaiiansteel]

I dont really understand the question

Jared Abbrederis destroyed Roby when they faced each other.

if you like Roby enough to select him in Round 2, you would have to love Abbrederis in Round 3...

[K Train]

I don't believe there is anyway Roby makes it past the Bengals in round 1. I highly doubt he falls to us in round 2 but if he did, I would be ok with it.

Think the go corner AGAIN in round 1?

[K Train]

Jared Abbrederis destroyed Roby when they faced each other.

if you like Roby enough to select him in Round 2, you would have to love Abbrederis in Round 3...

Got it. He does have a lot of good tape along with some ****ty ones from last season. Hes got some unreal tools and we do love the buckeyes. I would prefer him over either of the Florida corners at this point. The buckeyes defense was straight poo last season as a whole

[Shawn]

I like Roby in round 2. His potential is just as high as the top guys. He had a rough season for sure. But, he has lots of good tape too.

What I don't understand is those who like Lewan who would have a problem with Roby. IMO, they are similar types of talent...much physical skills but also had some bad games and film. Both got dominated last season...Lewan by a freshman. But, one is a top 10 pick, the other late first middle second.

[K Train]

I wish we'd have a shot at Shazier in round 2...imagine timmons and shazier on an inside cross blitz

[BURGH86STEEL]

Yea know, just stop it, Rooneys. First and foremost look at how a player PLAYED in FOOTBALL GAMES.

Stop thinking you can take physical skills and hone them into BECOMING a good player. If they weren't a good player, forget their measurable physical skills. There is a reason the skills didn't produce RESULTS at the lower level, and it's highly unlikely those skills will produce at the next level. Take a page out of the Jimmy Johnson and Big Tuna's book. Those guys knew what they were doing, as did the great Bill Polian. Pgh tries to get too cute. Stop it. Remember Mike Mamula and Vernon Gholston (and countless others)? Their measurable physical skills were out of this world, but they didn't really produce in college and they never produced in the NFL. As a matter of fact, they sucked.

Stick to players who were very productive on the college level. Forget thinking that you can "coach up" players who's production does not match their physical skills. Players missing desire, instincts and work ethic can't be fixed. Stop thinking you can do so. They thought they could coach up Curtis Brown to _learn_ how to play. Impossible: He sucked, he sucks, and he always will. Adams was a sloppy, lazy, unfocused OT at OSU. Nothing has changes since he has become a pro. Nothing. I think I could beat him rushing the passer. He is awful.

Teams take players from college with physical skills and hone them into becoming good football players. Unfortunately, the opposite happens a lot more than teams would like. The draft isn't an exact science. Teams won't know how college players will perform at the highest level until they can evaluate them vs other professional players. I don't believe many fans realize how difficult it is to replace quality NFL players. It's one reason why I believe the Steelers chose to hang onto some of their older players longer than they would had liked in recent years.

It's funny that someone would attempt to put Johnson's and Parcell's accomplishments over what the Steelers achieved throughout their history and recent history. I doubt that anyone I know would attempt to suggest that the Steelers don't know what they are doing by attempting to get to cute.

[Oviedo]

I wish we'd have a shot at Shazier in round 2...imagine timmons and shazier on an inside cross blitz

My concern about Shazier is him routinely getting blown up by Guards. Not sure he is big enough for the inside. Seems more like a 4-3 OLB with his pursuits quickness.

[K Train]

My concern about Shazier is him routinely getting blown up by Guards. Not sure he is big enough for the inside. Seems more like a 4-3 OLB with his pursuits quickness.

I used to agree with this. After further review he is EXCELLENT in traffic and he disengages blocks by never really getting touched, he is very slippery once you get a hand on him.

The steelers coveted Mychal Kendricks from Cal a few years back, I could see Shazier being in the same conversation, especially if Spences longterm outlook doesnt get better.

The difference between Shazier and guys like Ernie Simms and Alec Ogletree is how difficult he is to block (Ogletree was a guy that once you got a hand on him he was out of the play), as well as hes not just straight line speed like Simms

[Shawn]

I used to agree with this. After further review he is EXCELLENT in traffic and he disengages blocks by never really getting touched, he is very slippery once you get a hand on him.

The steelers coveted Mychal Kendricks from Cal a few years back, I could see Shazier being in the same conversation, especially if Spences longterm outlook doesnt get better.

The difference between Shazier and guys like Ernie Simms and Alec Ogletree is how difficult he is to block (Ogletree was a guy that once you got a hand on him he was out of the play), as well as hes not just straight line speed like Simms

I agree with you and O. He is indeed slippery. He found his way through traffic to make plays. BUT, when a G gets ahold of him, he can get mauled. He has the ability to get stronger. The sky is the limit for Shazier but he is a project. He needs to get stronger, because OG's the NFL are not as easily slipped past...and him being on his backside won't help his team.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Think the go corner AGAIN in round 1?

They took TE Eifert last year after taking TE Gresham in 2010, so they could go CB again after taking Kirkpatrick in 2012 (who hasn't exactly lit the world on fire in his time in Cincy). Terence Newman turns 36 this season, Pac Man Jones turns 31 this season, and Leon Hall turns 30 this season.

[K Train]

They took TE Eifert last year after taking TE Gresham in 2010, so they could go CB again after taking Kirkpatrick in 2012 (who hasn't exactly lit the world on fire in his time in Cincy). Terence Newman turns 36 this season, Pac Man Jones turns 31 this season, and Leon Hall turns 30 this season.

Its more just funny because theyve taken Hall, Joseph, and Kirkpatrick all in round 1 and have 2 former first round corners on the roster.

For a team that takes corners so often they seem corner needy all the time.

Leon Hall turning 30 makes me feel old though

[steelz09]

I wouldnt mind Roby in 2 or 3, at the very least he could be a FS convert

We already signed our starting FS and he's relatively young.

[K Train]

We already signed our starting FS and he's relatively young.

That was posted well before FA started

[steelz09]

That was posted well before FA started

Ahhh... gotcha. I didn't recognize this thread for some reason.

[hawaiiansteel]

Bradley Roby talks about his strengths, hopes to prove his critics wrong

Posted by Mike Florio on April 4, 2014



Ohio State cornerback Bradley Roby has emerged as one of the top defensive backs in the draft. He joined Friday’s edition of Pro Football Talk on NBCSN to discuss his game as he prepares to make the jump to the next level.

“I think my man to man is the best out of all of them,” Roby said when asked to identify what he does better than any other cornerback in the draft. “Just my press coverage, making plays, I think making plays might be one, too. I make a lot of plays, not even at corner, at special teams, too. I’ve blocked my share of punts, and I just make the plays wherever I’m on the field, so I think that’s what really separates me. I’m a playmaker, I’m a game changer, when I’m on the field, there’s going to be a difference made in that game, and that’s what I strive to do, that’s why I love to play football, and that’s something I think that I have over everybody else.”

Few football players are immune from critics, so Roby was asked to identify a criticism that he believes is unfair.

“That I don’t try hard,” Roby said. “Some people question my effort. This last year people were saying that I wasn’t trying hard and things like that, but you know I give everything I have for football. I love to play, it’s what I’ve always wanted to do as a kid. It’s my dream to play in the NFL, and the fact that people say, “Oh he doesn’t love to play football, doesn’t love the game,’ that’s one thing that really gets to me, because there’s nothing I’d rather be doing than playing football.”

Before he can play football in the NFL, Roby needs to be drafted. And he said he won’t be sweating if more and more names other than his are called out at Radio City Music Hall.

“I don’t think I’ll be nervous,” Roby said. “I mean I’m saying that now, there’s a whole month out. . . . I honestly think that God has a plan for me, and that it’s already written so there’s no need to be worried, there’s no need to be nervous because I’ll be where I need to be at the end of the day. I think that I’ll be put in a situation that I can flourish in. I know the effort that I’m going to put in. And I know that I’ll be in a situation that when I put my best foot forward I’ll succeed.

“So I’m not really worried about it, I can sit in the green room all day, that’s more TV time for me,” Roby said with a laugh. “So I’m not worried about it.”

Roby added that he hasn’t decided with certainty to attend the draft into person, but that he’s thinking about it carefully.

“Just being at Radio City and hearing my name called and walking on the stage, shaking the Commissioner’s hand. Not many people get the opportunity to do that, so that’s something I’ll definitely be considering.”

The Commissioner, of course, dispenses bear hugs not handshakes at the draft. But the first bear hug from Roby will be reserved for someone else.

“I will definitely be giving my mom the biggest hug ever,” Roby said. “She’s always been there for me, she raised me by herself, and she taught me how to work hard. I saw her work ethic in her job and it showed me how to work hard, and I just applied that to football, and just for her to be there with me at that time I’ll probably hug her to death. Just her being there and sharing that moment with her will be great.”

That moment is coming in less than five weeks for Roby and the rest of the players who’ll be selected in the first three rounds of the draft. As the day approaches, Roby seems to have the right attitude.

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