Louis Delmas visits Steelers

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  • steelz09
    Administrator
    • Jan 2008
    • 4675

    #16
    Originally posted by Rod Polamalu
    If his knee is good to go,....Delmas gives us at least a 30% increase in terms of productivity at the the FS position. Clark is a stand up guy, smart and cagey but well below average in terms of his on field ability.

    I'd still draft the Bucannon kid as i have very little faith in Sharmarko. Not to say that he cannot play ball,...just sick of us drafting as though we are Tony Dungy's Colts units. That is not the personnel that fits what we all hold dear as Steeler Ball.
    Interesting... you don't have faith in Sharmko as the future SS? Why not?

    I would agree if you said FS. Shamarko was never an option at FS no matter what some others have said. That would be like having Ray Rice playing FS. I would actually sacrifice a bit of speed to have a bit more size in the secondary (i.e. Seattle).
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    • K Train
      Hall of Famer
      • Jan 2014
      • 3685

      #17
      Originally posted by steelz09
      How did Earl Thomas avoid the so called "Texas curse"?
      Seems to be our curse with texas players lately...hills, sweed, brown. Not all longhorns
      Originally posted by steelz09
      Interesting... you don't have faith in Sharmko as the future SS? Why not?

      I would agree if you said FS. Shamarko was never an option at FS no matter what some others have said. That would be like having Ray Rice playing FS. I would actually sacrifice a bit of speed to have a bit more size in the secondary (i.e. Seattle).
      Shamarko is a perfect fit for an in the box SS

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35649

        #18
        Louis 'Da Missile' Delmas was the emotional leader for the Lions

        By Neal Coolong on Feb 17 2014



        The Steelers reportedly met with Delmas Monday, presumably out of mutual interest in his services in the Steelers' defensive secondary for the 2014 season. It'd be a key acquisition, considering the Steelers' lack of depth at their safety positions.

        "Delmas was the emotional leader of the Lions' defense, and he was nicknamed 'Da Missile' in Detroit for a reason," Yuille said. "He's a big hitter, and he typically tries to take opponents down by flying at them instead of wrapping up for a form tackle. This aggressive style can make him a great playmaker at times, but it can also lead to some serious negatives (massive coverage breakdowns, accidentally taking out teammates with whiffed hits, etc.)."

        Some call those things negatives. Some call them Steelers football. Somewhere between there is a lot of what the Steelers have been missing the last three years - big lumber coming downhill from the secondary. Perhaps it's not a coincidence the amount of fines issued to the Steelers' defensive backs has dropped quite a bit since 2010, and so have the amount of fumbles they've forced. Delmas's aggressive and physical style could help create more of those takeaways.

        And more injuries, too. One thing to be said about Ryan Clark, the Steelers' starting free safety since 2007, is he's been healthy, outside a freak incident in which he was diagnosed with a rare blood condition. Clark spent most of the 2007 season recovering from an injury in the high altitudes in Denver.

        Delmas has a checkered injury past, and that as much as anything else led to his release in Detroit. Yuille agreed with that, and in a situation very similar to what Pittsburgh is facing with outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley, it's the negative risk-reward ratio he carries, considering his contract.

        Yuille says Delmas was not one of his favorite players and was "happy to see him released." In the end, price became an issue.

        "Delmas' release strictly came down to the fact that he was set to get $6 million this year," Yuille said. "His production level in 2013 didn't warrant that kind of a cap hit, especially since injuries are always going to be a concern with him.

        "The Lions gave him an incentive-laden contract last year, and 2013 was the first time he ever played in all 16 games in a season. That only happened because the Lions carefully managed his practice schedule in order to make sure his bad knees didn't keep him out of game action."

        If that's the case, the Steelers are an ideal match for Delmas. This is a team that has taken care of veteran players. Former wide receiver Hines Ward didn't practice on Wednesday for the last three years of his career. Troy Polamalu missed practice due to a defect of his birth certificate, as coach Mike Tomlin so eloquently said it last year. If Delmas would be willing to accept less money for the obvious risk the Steelers would have to take with him, it could work out well for both sides.

        Yuille sees the reality in the situation though. Often injured can't be considered to contribute fully to the team.

        "The Lions reportedly want Delmas back on a more affordable contract, so clearly they like the kind of player he is," Yuille said. "However, between the constant injury risk and his inconsistent nature, I personally want them to go in a different direction. If I were a Steelers fan and they end up signing Delmas, I'd be rooting for a short-term, incentive-laden deal with very little guaranteed money in it."

        [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2014-steelers-free-agency/2014/2/17/5420458/steelers-louis-delmas-free-agency-lions-released-salary-cap[/URL]

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        • thor75
          Pro Bowler
          • Dec 2012
          • 1038

          #19
          I still think Chris Clemons out of Miami would be the better FA signing. He's 28 yo, good at the pass and the run. Signed a one-year deal with the Dolphins last year at 2.75mil.

          Ran a 4.4 at the 2009 combine. In five years, has played 11, 15, 14, 16, and 16 games. I'd take Clemons over Delmas anyday.
          1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
          2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
          3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
          4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
          5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
          5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
          6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
          6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
          7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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          • Dee Dub
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2010
            • 4652

            #20
            Delmas would be an upgrade but a true centerfielder (ball hawk), who also is a free agent is Jairus Byrd. But this is a pipedream.
            Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

            1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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            • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 3937

              #21
              Originally posted by Dee Dub
              Delmas would be an upgrade but a true centerfielder (ball hawk), who also is a free agent is Jairus Byrd. But this is a pipedream.


              I'm on board with that Dub. I would also consider Malcolm Jenkins if we are gonna spend some money.


              Delmas just reeks of "Steeler FA signing" if healthy. Mid to low contract value at FS...In prime age of career....Cut from previous team that won't impact comp picks...Change of scenery guy. AB & him have a friendly relationship going back to HS. I like a young vet in FA to pair with Troy. If they could get a FS with some range to play CF...Troy can still do what he does in base. They won't have to address S early with Shark behind Troy. Now the draft stats to take shape.

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              • K Train
                Hall of Famer
                • Jan 2014
                • 3685

                #22
                Byrd would be AMAZING. It is a pipe dream, but man if there is someone to clean house a little to get it would be him

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                • Ernie
                  Legend
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 8470

                  #23
                  Any update on Lewis Delmas?

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                  • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 10281

                    #24
                    Originally posted by K Train
                    Byrd would be AMAZING. It is a pipe dream, but man if there is someone to clean house a little to get it would be him
                    Byrd just supposedly turned down a deal that would make him the highest paid safety in the league for a portion of the deal. The report also states that the Bills are unlikely to franchise him. Somehow I don't see him then coming to Pittsburgh for what the team could or would pay him.

                    [url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000330181/article/jairus-byrd-unlikely-to-get-tagged-by-buffalo-bills[/url]
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                    • Shawn
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #25
                      Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                      Byrd just supposedly turned down a deal that would make him the highest paid safety in the league for a portion of the deal. The report also states that the Bills are unlikely to franchise him. Somehow I don't see him then coming to Pittsburgh for what the team could or would pay him.

                      [URL]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000330181/article/jairus-byrd-unlikely-to-get-tagged-by-buffalo-bills[/URL]
                      How much would he cost the Steelers? I mean, it would be worth cutting Troy and Ike to make it happen.
                      Trolls are people too.

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                      • phillyesq
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 7568

                        #26
                        Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                        Byrd just supposedly turned down a deal that would make him the highest paid safety in the league for a portion of the deal. The report also states that the Bills are unlikely to franchise him. Somehow I don't see him then coming to Pittsburgh for what the team could or would pay him.

                        [URL]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000330181/article/jairus-byrd-unlikely-to-get-tagged-by-buffalo-bills[/URL]
                        I could see Byrd joining his old coach in Cleveland, with the Browns making a huge overpay - something like 5 years, 55 million. He will then go on to never be heard from again after multiple staph infections.

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                        • phillyesq
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 7568

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Shawn
                          How much would he cost the Steelers? I mean, it would be worth cutting Troy and Ike to make it happen.
                          Based on what he turned down, in excess of $10 million per year.

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                          • Shawn
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 15131

                            #28
                            Ugh...yeah that won't happen.
                            Trolls are people too.

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                            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 10281

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              Ugh...yeah that won't happen.
                              Sure, but let us play "what if?"

                              Byrd goes to FA and calls Mikey T, and says "I've always wanted to play under Coach Lebeau. I will sign a one year, $8.25M contract to make it happen - no other way."

                              As it so happens, the cap space saved by cutting Troy P is exactly $8.25M for 2014, so he is definitely gone. Do you sign Byrd and cut Troy? Do the Steelers?

                              I would, but don't think the Steelers would.
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                              • sick beats
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 2144

                                #30
                                Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                                I'm afraid this visit is more about appeasing the fans than anything, to make it look as though the team is doing something to address its needs. The reason I say that is because unless and until we cut some big salaried players, we don't have the cap room to make Delmas a reasonable offer.
                                Thank you, BHD. The Rooneys constantly do this: bring in players they KNOW full well they can't afford, but to make Joe Six Pack think they are doing their best to field the best team they possibly can. Just look at some of the FAs they had come in for a visit over the years; they came and went, with no chance of an offer and promptly got signed by a team that was serious about adding some free agents.

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