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  • Dee Dub
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    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    #16
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    you are tripping... it wouldn't have been a blowout if Brady was the QB. Rodgers and Ben could keep the game close but they would also struggle due to the DB's being big, fast and blanketing WR's.........
    Those Seattle DB's may be big and physical but none of them are "fast".
    Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

    1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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    • NJ-STEELER
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 12563

      #17
      great post, pap

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27531

        #18
        Originally posted by Dee Dub
        Those Seattle DB's may be big and physical but none of them are "fast".
        They are fast enough...
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • Jigawatts
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 2639

          #19
          Can they stick with the receivers long enough while Ben dances around would be tacklers?
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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #20
            Originally posted by Jigawatts
            Can they stick with the receivers long enough while Ben dances around would be tacklers?
            Kapernick was 14-24 for 147 1TD 2INT's...

            Not saying Kap is Ben but he can avoid a rush and throw the ball downfield... and most times the DB's were still in coverage.

            I stand by my opinion that the score would've been a little closer but then you have to figure in the run... Lynch would've ran all over our Rush D.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • Jigawatts
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 2639

              #21
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              Lynch would've ran all over our Rush D.
              Sad but true
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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 27531

                #22
                We were 8- and couldnt beat Miami or San Diego at home but we would throw 5 TDs on Seattle? Have we thrown 4 TDs on any team this year?
                Steelers 27
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                • RuthlessBurgher
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                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #23
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  Have we thrown 4 TDs on any team this year?
                  Twice, in a 3 week span (which lead to Ben being named offensive player of the month for November).

                  In a 55-31 loss in New England on 11-3-13, Ben's stat line was 28-48 for 400 yards, 4 TD's and 2 INT's.

                  In a 37-27 win vs. Detroit on 11-17-13, Ben's stat line was 29-45 for 367 yards, 4 TD's and 0 INT's.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • NorthCoast
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                    • Sep 2008
                    • 26636

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                    Gotta agree.
                    Flippy, I share you view that Bens skills would fare better than Manning, but please don't think he would shred that defense.
                    Save for ONE DRIVE Ben has been nothing special in 3 Superbowls against average to BAD defenses.
                    Peyton got picked twice, that is a typical SB for Ben against average players.

                    Against a great defense? We would get crushed, Ben throws multiple picks against these ball hawks.

                    Ben could however make more plays than Manning did for the reasons Flippy gives. But he would make plenty of mistakes looking at his history.
                    You're thinking of 'old' Roethlisberger, and I agree.

                    But I would really like to see how the 'new' Roethlisberger does in the big game. The one that is willing to take what a defense gives him but also is looking for the big play on every down. THAT would be tough to defend. Manning is all about pre-snap reads. Roethlisberger isn't.

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                    • grotonsteel
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 2810

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      Save for ONE DRIVE Ben has been nothing special in 3 Superbowls against average to BAD defenses.
                      Packers were ranked No.2 Defense,Seattle was 7th ranked. Not sure i will call those Defense average or BAD defense.

                      Ben plays in AFC North which would have helped him take on Seattle Defense.
                      Steelers Draft 2015
                      Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
                      Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
                      Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
                      Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
                      Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
                      Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
                      Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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                      • Shoe
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4044

                        #26
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        We were 8- and couldnt beat Miami or San Diego at home but we would throw 5 TDs on Seattle? Have we thrown 4 TDs on any team this year?
                        Haha, you said it. I would dread a matchup with this SEA team in the SB, because they would beat us, and they would have done it "Pittsburgh Steeler" style. They would've mugged us, in a rout.
                        I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                        • DukieBoy
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3488

                          #27
                          Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                          It was funny but I heard everyone talking about how anning was so under siege on Sunday - almost as if that is an excuse for his performance. To me, it looked like a typical football game behind the Steelers O-line. I've seen Ben routinely have less time before the rush gets to him than PM faced on Sunday.

                          Seattle made Peyton look like YA Tittle at the end of his career. No way anybody makes Ben look that way. Like Bart Scott says ....






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                          • feltdizz
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                            • May 2008
                            • 27531

                            #28
                            Originally posted by DukieBoy

                            Seattle made Peyton look like YA Tittle at the end of his career. No way anybody makes Ben look that way. Like Bart Scott says ....

                            Ben had 1 great drive in 3 SB's...

                            I'm not saying Ben would look like Peyton but I doubt he looks like Montana.
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                            • AzStillers1989
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1286

                              #29
                              Originally posted by NW Steeler
                              We still have a relatively young franchise QB. We have to get the pieces in place to make one more run with him!
                              I really thin k we could make 2 more runs if we find those so called pieces we need..
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                              • Ernie
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                                • Aug 2013
                                • 8470

                                #30
                                Originally posted by AzStillers1989
                                I really thin k we could make 2 more runs if we find those so called pieces we need..
                                with the right personnel decisions yea.. and, as has been mentioned... we will have to find a few of those pieces via free agency... with immediate impact potential (on the defensive side of the ball). I doubt there will be two runs (before ben is through) if we try to address those needs solely by the draft.

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